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Winter tiress which of these is best?

Hi: I've narrowed it down to these 2 brands & types


https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/hak...r3/302520.html




https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/x-ice-xi3/148483.html




As I live in Canada(London,Ontario) need a excellent tire from what I've read up on so far these seem to fit the bill(will be adding the TPMS to these too,unless not really necessary?) Open to other brands just basing this on current research I've done!Thanks for any help!! Ishould add I have a 2018 GT...thinking 225/55 R17's is the correct size!!

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Except for the 2018, the Gen 3 does not require tpms sensors.

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225/55-17 is the correct size, if you're going with 17" wheels.

Between the two, you really can't go wrong. Nokian is one of the best in the winter tire business. I personally have ran the Michelin X-Ice Xi3 for the past 4 seasons, and I thought they suited the 6 very well, offering fantastic traction and control through the deep snow while still offering solid, squirm-free handling and braking when the roads were dry.

I guess it's the matter of whether the Nokians are worth the $175 extra or not. Personally, I don't. I 'd get the X-Ice, and use the cash difference to upgrade the 17" rims...
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The X-Ice is not that good in the dry. If you want a good all-around tire I would suggest the Yokohama Ice-Guard IG52C. They are very good in slush and on ice.

Also, Take a look at the bridgestone blizzaks.
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For me Michelin x ice xi3.
Quiet
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For me Michelin x ice xi3.
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X-Ice is not quiet, smooth, or responsive on dry pavement, lol. They are good for heavy and constant winter use. Not the best choice for an all-around, multipurpose winter tire.
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X-Ice is not quiet, smooth, or responsive on dry pavement, lol. They are good for heavy and constant winter use. Not the best choice for an all-around, multipurpose winter tire.
Says you...

However. TireRack says otherwise, rating the X-Ice #1 in their Road Manners & Dry/Wet Track results.

In fact, they rate the X-Ice far better than the Yokos you mentioned.

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All four tires delivered very good snow traction with a small overall advantage for the Bridgestone Blizzak WS80, especially noticeable when asking the tire to brake and turn at the same time. The Michelin X-ice Xi3 was a close second overall, and like the Blizzak WS80 also delivers very good overall traction with just a little less cornering capability than the Bridgestone tire.
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Under the light handling workload of our Road Ride, the Michelin X-Ice Xi3 continued its leading position for the category, feeling well connected to the road. The Bridgestone Blizzak WS80 was very close behind, and a noticeable improvement in this area versus previous-generation Blizzak Studless Ice and Snow tires. The Yokohama iceGUARD iG52c showed reasonably quick initial steering response, but didn't feel quite as connected as the Michelin and Bridgestone tires.
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All four tires produced somewhat more tread noise than a typical all-season tire, but none were found to be objectionable. Such as it was the X-Ice Xi3 generated the least, while the Blizzak WS80 and iceGUARD iG52c scored close behind.
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The Bridgestone Blizzak WS80 provided the best traction in the dry and wet 50-0 mph panic stop test, and also in dry cornering. The Michelin X-Ice Xi3 was a close second, while providing slightly better wet cornering traction than the Blizzak WS80. The Yokohama iceGUARD iG52c offered noticeably less grip for stopping and cornering in both dry and wet conditions...
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All four of our test tires performed well in those conditions. The separation came when asked to perform abrupt maneuvers on dry and wet roads. It's here the Blizzak WS80 and X-Ice Xi3 showed a distinct advantage. The iceGUARD iG52c proved adequate, but at a level below the Bridgestone and Michelin tires, while the Winter Maxx WM01 didn't have the traction of the others, particularly in the wet.
Sorry, but based on that, the fact that it's ranked 2nd behind the Blizzak from customers, based on 3.5 million miles driven, and based on personal experience driving in winter weather for over 20 years, I think it's a damn good choice for an "all-around, multipurpose winter tire."
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Hey @Carguru88 I have only tried the Ice-X (from the ones you listed. They were very good times and I would still be using them if my brake upgrade allowed me to use that size wheel.
I had the Yokohame IceGuard and they were also very good. Not as grippy in the snow but stable on the dry. I also ran Firestone Winterforce and they great in snow and rain but Really loud on the dry. I had one season on Bridgestone and they were awesome.



Both will be great, if it were me I would save the difference on the price because if you keep your head both will keep you on the road.
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Hey @Carguru88 I have only tried the Ice-X (from the ones you listed. They were very good times and I would still be using them if my brake upgrade allowed me to use that size wheel.
I had the Yokohame IceGuard and they were also very good. Not as grippy in the snow but stable on the dry. I also ran Firestone Winterforce and they great in snow and rain but Really loud on the dry. I had one season on Bridgestone and they were awesome.



Both will be great, if it were me I would save the difference on the price because if you keep your head both will keep you on the road.
The iceguard we're stable and very quiet in the dry, decent in rain, but I like their capabilities in slush and ice.

I put these tires to the test in my RWD BMW drifting the shit out of them for two seasons straight and I was very pleased with their performance. While there are better choices out there, these are also great. Yokohama's feel better suited to Mazda's G chassis -better than any Michelin's which is certainly a consideration to make. The treadwear on them is exceptionally good better than the competition.

But hey, X-Ice was rated better, so just buy those. But there is no way Blizzaks are smoother or quieter on dry pavement. I've even heard the same with X-Ice.

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https://www.kaltire.com/en/tires/hak...r3/302520.html these are the winners the rep at Kal Tire explained why they are a step up from the Michelin X-ice so there goes more money!!LOL!!! Only 40 dollars difference between the 2 brands so going with the R3's!! Again thanks for the feedback/help!!!
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