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post #11 of 43 (permalink) Old 11-29-2005, 11:21 PM Thread Starter
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Can someone explain the difference between chains and cables? (I had chains for my last car, but never could get them on dry, let alone in a pile of snow!)
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Chains are just that--chains. Chains with links, they look like something you might use to lock a gate, except they are linked in a form that fits around a tire.

Cables are made of metal stranded cabling fastened together with crimped brackets, and fit the exact shape of the tire. Much thinner, quieter, tighter fitting and less likely to break.
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so did anybody find a suitable cable solution for the 6? im running the stock 17" wheels.

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OK, I just tried a second set of cables from Pep Boys (these are the ones in the black box--the other ones I tried were the more expensive version in the grey box). These cables are thinner but still the clearance is just too tight.

They *might* work, but the space between the cable latch and the suspension at the the inside top of the tire is literally millimeters. It just makes me too nervous--if the cables aren&#39;t perfectly tight, or if they loosen or give then the latch will brush against the suspension and the cable latch will likely break off after a few rotations. Then who knows what--body damage, or worse the broken cables could jam the steering or the brakes.

The only alternative I can think of is to buy a set of steel wheels with snow tires that are not as wide as the stock 6 wheels. Then chains should fit OK, plus I have snow tires. It&#39;s a pain though, besides the expense I would have to change my wheels every time I head up to the mountains in winter.

I&#39;m really hoping SOMEONE here can tell me a working cable solution (brand, store).
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Toecheese,

I am having a parallel experience. 6 wagon, with sport package, consequently 17&#39;&#39; rims. I bought the Pep boys
cables, cheaper ones. They did not fit, about 3" short. Then read the manual, amazed to find cables and chains not a possibility. I ended up not taking my Mazda to Sequoia. I am going to call Mazda North America as I find it inconcieveable they could manufacture a wagon that cannot take cahins or cables. If you get any info on cables that work, I would love to know.

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I am having a parallel experience. 6 wagon, with sport package, consequently 17&#39;&#39; rims. I bought the Pep boys
cables, cheaper ones. They did not fit, about 3" short. Then read the manual, amazed to find cables and chains not a possibility. I ended up not taking my Mazda to Sequoia. I am going to call Mazda North America as I find it inconcieveable they could manufacture a wagon that cannot take cahins or cables. If you get any info on cables that work, I would love to know.

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No, I haven&#39;t found a solution. I even tried a set of steel wheels off a Camry (205/65/15, I think... not sure if I am remembering the profile size correctly). They had better clearance and were closer to working but still the space was just too close to the suspension for comfort. Ended up not taking the car to Sequoia over New Years.

I think I&#39;m going to have to find a narrower set of tires on steel wheels, probably 195&#39;s. I&#39;m going to contact tirerack.com and see if they have any recommendations. Please let me know if you get any info from Mazda.

Just curious, where in Sequoia did you go? We were at the John Muir lodge in Grant Grove.
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if you are still at stock hight, one option might be to buy some spacers for the front wheels? i run a 5mm spacer on the track and don&#39;t have any issues. it&#39;s a bit of a pain to throw those on before a trip i guess, but if you are thinking about a whole other set of tires it might save you a bit. usually you can hit up your local tire store on who can get them for you.

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Has anyone found a solution that works for these yet?

I honestly don&#39;t need chains to drive - I lived in PA for 10 years and never put chains on a car.

But these stupid ski resorts here in CA require that you have chains on your tires when it snows... pretty lame - but I&#39;ve actually been turned away trying to get to Mammoth once.

Any suggestions??

I really need to find something that looks like it fits - even if I drive 2 miles - away from cops - and then take them back off...

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Same here, I grew up in NY, they would laugh at the idea of chains there.

So far, I have no solution. Cables just will not work safely. Next step is to try snow claws to see if they fit. Don&#39;t know if California will allow them for snow though.

Anyone tried them yet?
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I have SCC Shur Grip Z cables on my 6, model #SZ331. I just made sure they remained tight, haven&#39;t tried them on it since its been lowered.

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Hi all,

I was up at Mammoth and it dumped about 3 feet of snow in 24 hours. I bought a set of Z cables for my stock 04 Mazda6 SW and ended up not even leaving. The cables made a clicking noise every time they would go around - they were hitting the arm that is right above the front wheels. Check your car out and you will see that there is only about 1/4" of clearance for any sort of chain or cable. Is this clicking detrimental? I was afraid of getting a few miles out of town and having them come flying off.

Please let us know if anybody has a specific brand and size they have successfully used!
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I found a link for some cables. Maybe this would be an option. It says it only requires 1/4" clearance. Go to this site.....

http://www.vulcantire.com/index.html
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