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I'll clarify 2 things. One, Black Magic has no water based ingredients, which is why it's usually my go to. Two, I don't use it on my leather/pleather/whatever they name it. For that, I've been using Lexol. I use the Black Magic for the dash, door trim (other than the pleather behind the door handle) and any other exposed vinyl/plastic.
Lexol makes excellent cleaner and conditioner, the later is what i call a "feel good" product for treated leathers like in our cars. With anything silicone/animal fat based cleaner/conditioners, you are putting it on a surface that is precisely designed to repel body and chemical fluids. That's why most interior cleaners are water based so it can clean and easily hydrate the tough leather. The lexol cleaners have the following ingredients : Glycerin, Detergents, Water, Preservative., and the Lexol conditioner has the following ingredients : Sulfated Fatty Alcohols, Sulfated Neatsfoot Oil, Tall Fatty Acids, Water, Preservative.
As long as a cleaner is ph neutral, it does no harm to leather/vinyl or rubber.
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I use Griot's Leather Care Spray for the seats and Wolfgang's Vinyl & Rubber Protectant for the dash, door trim and the "leatherette" seat bolsters.

The Wolfgang product is water-based but is marketed as providing UV protection. You can't believe everything you read, but FWIW, Autogeek claims that it is petroleum distillates in other products that cause drying and cracking. I would appreciate MilR's thoughts on this statement (or from any of the other forum experts).

Wolfgang products are pricey ($25) but I only buy from Autogeek when they run 20-25% discounts.


Wolfgang Vinyl & Rubber Protectant penetrates beyond the surface to maintain pliability and integrity of vinyl and rubber surfaces!

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So the Griot's leather care does not leave a residue? I stopped using the Lexol conditioner because I felt it did leave the seats with a film, at least until it evaporated or absorbed. Still need to do some research on the dash/vinyl surfaces as some amount of UV protection (perceived or actual) is attractive to me.
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So the Griot's leather care does not leave a residue? I stopped using the Lexol conditioner because I felt it did leave the seats with a film, at least until it evaporated or absorbed. Still need to do some research on the dash/vinyl surfaces as some amount of UV protection (perceived or actual) is attractive to me.
Not that I've noticed. You need to go with the spray, not the lotion.

I have only recently began using Griot's based on Byakuya's recommendation.

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I use Griot's Leather Care Spray for the seats and Wolfgang's Vinyl & Rubber Protectant for the dash, door trim and the "leatherette" seat bolsters.

The Wolfgang product is water-based but is marketed as providing UV protection. You can't believe everything you read, but FWIW, Autogeek claims that it is petroleum distillates in other products that cause drying and cracking (hey, it sounded good to me). I would appreciate MilR's thoughts on this statement (or from any of the other forum experts).

Wolfgang products are pricey ($25) but I only buy from Autogeek when they run 20-25% discounts.


Wolfgang Vinyl & Rubber Protectant penetrates beyond the surface to maintain pliability and integrity of vinyl and rubber surfaces!
Wolfgang detailing products is another high quality lineup by Palm beach motoring group(PBMG) that owns and sponsors autogeek. I dont know if they manufacture it in-house, but i know Wolfgang,Pinnacle,DP and other products under PBMG umbrella are some of the best in business. Mike Phillips, one of the partners in PBMG is among the most respected names in detailing business, and he vouches by Wolfgang/DP/Blackfire line of detailing products.

The problem with some of the silicone based cleaners is alkaline , so it is not ph neutral to leather. This overtime will result in hardening the leather and eventual crack. You want a ph neutral product and with good penetration ability, hence most of well known interior cleaners/conditioners are neutral, water based products.

In cars like ours with mostly vinyl and some heavily treated leather, the goal is to keep the surface clean, which means wiping everything down with a quality interior cleaner /protector every few weeks. I personally use 303 protectant on leather and vinyl. It is a water based product with a lengthy history of UV protection in aerospace and marine world. I spray it on a microfiber towel, and wipe everything down once every 3-4 weeks. It leaves a matte finish, which after a couple of days turns in a natural looking finish.

Just like craft beers, manufacturing detailing products in the age of internet has become a huge, profitable business. Most if not all the labels you see on autopia or autogeek are top shelf in this heavily competitive business.
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I have a Mazda 6 Sport so no leather. I have been using Armor All wipes for interior cleaning on a regular basis since the last 4 years and have not seen any damage/discoloration.
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lol at hating on Armor All, mostly they gained a bad reputation from some of their products from many years ago, specifically the UV shiny black product, almost as if it is a myth now and people just believe all their products are crap just because of the name.

Look at the ingredients from armor all purpose interior cleaner and your so wonderful lexol or meguiar interior cleaner, same ingredients basically. They all cost around the same price. Bottom line, you are still getting ripped off from all of them. They are overpriced for what they have inside and the amount of product. They are all water based. They all have some form of "scent". They will all affect the interior overtime.

You are biased towards Lexol and Meguiar only because of marketing and word of mouth. Meguiar has many crappy products just as much as Armor all.

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lol at hating on Armor All, mostly they gained a bad reputation from some of their products from many years ago, specifically the UV shiny black product, almost as if it is a myth now and people just believe all their products are crap just because of the name.

Look at the ingredients from armor all purpose interior cleaner and your so wonderful lexol or meguiar interior cleaner, same ingredients basically. They all cost around the same price. Bottom line, you are still getting ripped off from all of them. They are overpriced for what they have inside and the amount of product. They are all water based. They all have some form of "scent". They will all affect the interior overtime.

You are biased towards Lexol and Meguiar only because of marketing and word of mouth. Meguiar has many crappy products just as much as Armor all.
Or you learn things from personal experience or reading about MANY others who have had issues with cheap Armor All.

@neenwht6 I hope you're enjoying the Griots - I love the leather cleaner's smell and how it lasts for a week easily.

@rmhpmi I haven't had any issues with residue or sheen at all with Griots, which is why i keep going to them. I'm sure Meguire's or Mother's are perfectly fine - I just know Griots takes the shine/grease off my steering wheel and makes it feel new again, so I keep using it
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@rmhpmi I haven't had any issues with residue or sheen at all with Griots, which is why i keep going to them. I'm sure Meguire's or Mother's are perfectly fine - I just know Griots takes the shine/grease off my steering wheel and makes it feel new again, so I keep using it [/QUOTE]


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