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Put the springs on. Between the look and the ride you'll be glad you did.

Have never heard the springs will mess with the stock struts. I'd need proof not hearsay to believe it. Anyway I call BS.

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I got the delete done on Tuesday (7/3) and my tint strip on Thursday (7/5), I still need to get some pics, which I'm not sure when I will, lol.

Still waiting on my springs, they said ETA was 7/3 and I since I got no email or nothing from them on 7-3/4/5/6 I emailed them and asked what the ETA was (on 7/6) and they said, "Hello, let me check for you!" and I still haven't gotten a reply, so I'm just waiting atm .
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Put the springs on. Between the look and the ride you'll be glad you did.

Have never heard the springs will mess with the stock struts. I'd need proof not hearsay to believe it. Anyway I call BS.

Wheels look great.
You should do more digging then. Not all lowering springs are designed to work optimally with your stock struts - it should be specifically stated. Tanabe's don't offer a very aggressive drop and they specify it will work fine, but a more aggressively dropped/stiffer spring will not play nice with the dampening rates of the OEM struts and will wear them out quicker than if you were to use your OEM springs.

@sav, nice car! the build is coming along nicely. you can use the Tanabe's on factory struts no problem if you want to, but I would suggest upgrading your struts to Bilstein B6 and put some corksport sway bars in there while you have the suspension taken apart.

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Anytime you go "AFTER MARKET" it should be obvious that you are altering the OEM equipment. While different springs may possibly shorten the life of a strut they do not "mess" with them and there is still NO proof that they do.

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Anytime you go "AFTER MARKET" it should be obvious that you are altering the OEM equipment. While different springs may possibly shorten the life of a strut they do not "mess" with them and there is still NO proof that they do.
Yes there is. Stiff springs with an aggressive drop dramatically lower the lifespan of OEM struts. I've seen it more times than you can ever imagine. Every single person with experience on suspension says it.

Over at the BMW forums, H&R lowering springs are, quite literally a popular "downgrade". blows your struts in no time not to mention the shitty stiff, bouncy ride. They are too stiff for OEM damper rates meaning they don't work well together at all.

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Interesting you've seen it more times than I could imagine but yet in a recent thread you were/are quite ignorant about coilovers in general. We're talking about Mazda, Mazda mods not BMW. Show me any proof

Still calling BS. Link a few threads...

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Hate to admit it, but GI is right...

When lowering the car, it's recommended to replace the struts/shocks at the same time. I've never done it myself, but I've seen literally dozens of other owners on this forum lower their rides, only to replace the struts/shocks almost immediately due to them failing. That's if they weren't swapped out to new ones at the time the springs were installed.

If I was to lower my 6, I would budget for new ones anyway, so it gets done with the car on a lift or in a shop just once...

I'd link up some older threads in the suspension sections, but I'm on my cell. But I know they do exist here. If I'm wrong, then I apologize, but I don't think my memory has failed me just yet... lol

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Interesting you've seen it more times than I could imagine but yet in a recent thread you were/are quite ignorant about coilovers in general. We're talking about Mazda, Mazda mods not BMW. Show me any proof

Still calling BS. Link a few threads...
1. How am I still ignorant about coilovers?

2. How does the fundamental concept of shocks/struts on a Mazda differ from any other vehicle?

3. You can easily look it up yourself. It's all over the internet.

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Hate to admit it, but GI is right...
If you hate to admit it... Don't.

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I've never done it myself, but I've seen literally dozens of other owners on this forum lower their rides, only to replace the struts/shocks almost immediately due to them failing. That's if they weren't swapped out to new ones at the time the springs were installed.
Immediately is probably worst case scenario, but your struts sure as hell won't last very long. Regardless you can get much better performance and a suspension that articulates bumps and rough roads far better than OEM by upgrading your struts to good sh*t such as Bilstein.

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If I was to lower my 6, I would budget for new ones anyway, so it gets done with the car on a lift or in a shop just once...
... And that's a great idea. I would also install some sway-bars front/rear and probably some camber plates on the front axle while i'm at it too. Will completely transform this cars handling and make it very capable. Mazda's G chassis is incredibly capable but with stock suspension and the not so good stock differential there is tons of potential left to exploit so long as the driver is good.

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If I'm wrong, then I apologize, but I don't think my memory has failed me just yet... lol
No need to apologize, because you're 100% right.

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I had about 11k on stock shocks with cs before I switch them out.

I only switch them because I finally had time to work on the car one weekend.

Zero leaks and still functioned pretty good considering the beating they went through.


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