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I noticed the 'lurch' as well when I first got mine. I've since retrained my heel-toe movements and rarely get that problem anymore. For the record, I usually shift at around 2500 - 3000RPM but I also throw the shifter down pretty quick so my revs don't fall as far.
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So it's not just me.... I've been experiencing the grinding on my '14 with the 1-2 upshift as well. Not all the time, but certainly more often when I "get on it" a bit.
Its most likely the car, as I stated before. Now if only you can get Mazda to make it better. It maybe as simple as a programming change or there may be hardware differences. Just for your information , on the 2006-2007 Speed6's , the clutch take-up was very harsh--- like spring loaded. Mazda came out with a new release spring and adjustment , that made things much better---- Mazda is pretty good at that. So there is hope. Thanks Oldvet
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I have a 2015 and find the clutching in this car very different from every other car I've owned. I also compensate with easing the clutch in between 1 and 2 and occasionally between 2 and 3 depending on the speed, but then mentally that just feels so wrong since your riding the clutch more. I haven't taken the time to really research other's experiences with the MT, but I feel like a lot of it is the car itself. Perfect example of the weirdness: when I'm in first in traffic on a road with no incline and apply no throttle, essentially just coasting at idle, she bunny hops on her own all the time. I'm constantly clutching to smooth her out and I feel like I'm getting judged as a new MT driver. Didn't have this problem with any other Mazda (I've had a few) or any other make for that matter.
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I have a 2015 and find the clutching in this car very different from every other car I've owned. I also compensate with easing the clutch in between 1 and 2 and occasionally between 2 and 3 depending on the speed, but then mentally that just feels so wrong since your riding the clutch more. I haven't taken the time to really research other's experiences with the MT, but I feel like a lot of it is the car itself. Perfect example of the weirdness: when I'm in first in traffic on a road with no incline and apply no throttle, essentially just coasting at idle, she bunny hops on her own all the time. I'm constantly clutching to smooth her out and I feel like I'm getting judged as a new MT driver. Didn't have this problem with any other Mazda (I've had a few) or any other make for that matter.
I totally understand the "bunny hop" thing. I think a lot of it has to do with the electronic throttle programming. I was in a parking lot, 1st gear, and gave the car a little gas to get moving. I then let off the pedal to see how quickly the throttle would respond. It was actually about 2-3 seconds before the throttle responded like an old cable/mechanical set-up. I wish there was a way to easily connect a computer to the car and tinker with the throttle programming, or better yet, a retro fit throttle body/cable/pedal kit (only in my dreams). Gone are the days when I could roll smoothly in slow and stop and go traffic in my '03. How easy is it for you guys to pull the shifter out of 3rd gear without depressing the clutch pedal? Mine slips out with very little effort below about 3000 RPM. I actually accidentally knocked it out of gear one time just resting my hand on the shifter.
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I can deal with the jerkiness but that effin' grinding from time to time on a 1st - 2nd power shift pisses me off every time it happens. What exactly can be done mechanically to correct this? I asked the dealership and their response was "just don't shift so fast." Really?
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I can deal with the jerkiness but that effin' grinding from time to time on a 1st - 2nd power shift pisses me off every time it happens. What exactly can be done mechanically to correct this? I asked the dealership and their response was "just don't shift so fast." Really?
Never shift out of 1st below 3750rpm and never let off the gas until you've depressed the clutch at least a third of the way (Your revs should slightly rise at the beginning of the shift). There is no other way around the issue. Do those two things and it will shift good from 1st to second CONSISTENTLY. It's all about keeping the synchros clean for the NEXT time you shift.


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Never shift out of 1st below 3750rpm and never let off the gas until you've depressed the clutch at least a third of the way (Your revs should slightly rise at the beginning of the shift). There is no other way around the issue. Do those two things and it will shift good from 1st to second CONSISTENTLY. It's all about keeping the synchros clean for the NEXT time you shift.
Thank you, Solar! I will try that to see how it goes.
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The bucking near idle is due to the high compression ratio. Engines with high compression haaate being bogged. It's annoying how basic functions of driving a manual are changed on the 6.

I also noticed a new strategy if you will. letting the clutch out then pushing it back in a tiny bit before the "lurch" happens, then letting it all the way out basically eliminates the Buck since you let it slip. I only do it when I am driving other people around since it doesn't bother me personally.
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The bunny hop thing is typically because the throttle is being touched ever so lightly. Initial throttle touch on this car is 4.8%, so when you jiggle between on and off with that much difference, it will make it buck. Also 1st is really short, you can't just expect it to wind down to idle and be happy rolling along after that. Also if you slightly ride the clutch in second with no throttle near idle it will make car buck really bad too.


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