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Hmmm all these cameras,we are definitely living in a BigBrother society :( And the old days of 10K leeway isn't there anymore with these cameras.
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* * * * * * Man there's some camera's on monash (I think one at burke rd overbridge), but they're not point to point (yet). *There's also loads of cameras on the way to geelong which are point to point, and loads of cameras on the western ring road and I'm pretty sure I read that there was a camera every 60 metres in the tunnels (I did some research before deciding to quit speeding heh).

Then there's all the combo red-light / speed camera's that they've just started installing at a lot of the blackspot intersections. *These ones will book you for speeding thru green / orange, and book you for speeding AND red light if you go thru the red. *Most of these blackspots are signposted tho, so you know to slow down for them.

So just be careful and good luck avoiding fines... I think they can take up to a month to arrive in the mail depending on if they're a new (digital) speed camera, or old (film) speed camera.

http://www.roadwatch.com.au/ *has a fairly good list but the interface is a bit messy[/b]
True, but no cameras from toorak rd entrance to Hallamtho (must've got heaps of fines everyday if there are cameras there). I've seen some cameras but they are safety cameras.But yes..there are heaps when u get to Citylink area. That's why the speed suddenly drops from 100 to 80 for no reason once u passed toorak rd exit. n then u can see no more sign from there on...tricky indeed...
nice link there rainchild
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"Safety" cams is just the polite word for "speed" cams... it's like saying "bother" instead of "GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING SHITDONKEY!" ;) (unless you're referring to the security-style video cameras on poles?)

*cough*

Annnnyway. Yeah I think the cam by burke street's only inbound not outbound, but I'm not sure.

When I can afford a bluetooth GPS unit and ipaq I think I'm going to write some speed camera warning software attached to a melways map or something, but that's not going to be until after xmas.
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Hi guys.On the topic of speed camera,wondering anyone here ever uses this little device : ROAD ANGEL , As it's suppose to give you a warning when you are approaching any speed camera.
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Yeah I was looking at the road angel and thinknig 'thats pretty cool, but it costs 1000 bucks' and for me I'd rather buy a bluetooth GPS device for 500 bucks (or a cable connected one for under 200).. hook that up with a bluetooh IPAQ for between 500 and 1200 bucks (I'd probably take the 700 buck model) .. so for me that's 1200 bucks and then I get to write my own software (that's what I do all day every day) that does a quick database lookup to see if you're near any of the danger zones. Plus you can get navigation software 'out of the box' for the pocket pc too. And soon you're going to get mobile phones that run a cut down version of pocket pc so in theory you could even have your mobile phone warn you of these black spots instead of having to buy an ipaq... Technology is getting pretty cool these days :)
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hehe great info here Rainchild about this available technology.But this way you described can only benefit someone like you who can program.But would any of such device you mentioned that will have this very feature prreprogrammed?

But I agree,if the Road Angel is much cheaper,say around 500,then I will seriously think about it,but not at this price just yet.But hopefully it will come down in price as every new gadget does :)
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Yeah Pocket PC is basically a cut down version of windows designed to run on a wallet-sized computer. These things are pulling 400mhz with 64mb of ram these days so they're not total pieces of crap either.

For me, it makes more sense to spend 1200 bucks on something I can use as a mini-computer (you can send/receive emails, browse the web, etc from these things if you're willing to pay the cellphone costs). They also come with meeting scheduling software, and even cut-down versions of excel, word, and access. Oh and games too... you can get a version of quake, for example.

So it's not as good as a laptop, but still very versitile... and small :)

With regards to pre-programming... yeah you can already buy navigation software for pocket pc's but it can be pretty expensive (up to 1000 bucks for the software alone).

I'd take a shareware approach - 30 day trial, 50 dollar registration fee to get warnings of upcoming hazards.

Then the next part of the project would be to display your position on your melways / sydways / etc... That'd be a more expensive addon since the maps cost like 140 bucks on CD in the first place. So maybe it'd be 200 bucks for the software that displays the melways.

After that comes the things like adding navigation, adding speed limits, etc... ie the hard stuff. It would depend on the kinda information I can get out of the maps on CD... if they already have that info built into them then easy, but if not that's where I'd hafta quit my day job and go full time on the project. (I can dream, right? :))

But there's a good chance if you're a salesperson that you could get your work to pay for the 700 dollar ipaq (since it lets you arrange meetings etc on the road), then all you'd need is 500 for the gps and 50 for the software.

Or I suppose if you had a cabled version then maybe 200 for the gps and 50 for the software. I'm not sure if I'd initially support cabled or not... I prefer the idea of bluetooth because then you can hide it away inside the dash and your ipaq just connects to it wirelessly as long as it's within about 5-10 metres radius of the car.

The hard part is keeping the database updated with information of cameras / hazards / etc (it's a big job for one person to maintain a database with that much info). But that's where the shareware concept is cool, you let the user's report the hazards kinda like roadwatch does.
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wow....u should've replaced my lecturer Rainchild :P
Huge infos but nevertheless packed in a few paragraphs :)

Yeah while reading ur "thesis" i came up with the questions of software updates and then again, law/legality issues.

Mini PC are cool...my lecturer got one (A Viewsonic brand) and makes me wanna get one as well :P

Bout the cameras on m1, they are like big pole with a camera that looks like cameras u found at the train stations type of camera on top. there's one on burke rd exit, one after foster rd entrance to m1 and some others like every 5kms or so all the way to toorak rd exit. n after that...maybe speed cams
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Yeah I've been thinking about how it pertains to the law... but like on the radio station there's traffic reports for hazards and speed cameras... I think the mentality is that if it slows ppl down that's what they wanted to achieve..

Software updates are easy to d/l you just take the pocket pc outta the car and put it in the cradle at home, run the 'setup.exe' and it puts the new software on there.

I think those tall cameras are just video feeds to let the traffic ppl put up signs going 'traffic is heavy at warragul rd' etc. Don't believe there's any speed attached to those. Usually if there's speed cameras there's one for each lane and they're hidden behind a sign or bridge. Kinda like the citylink toll gate camera's but hidden :)
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Hi guys; Just join this forum (m6gr8; see you again ..:) )

Rainchild, there's no fixed speed camera or point to point from and to Geelong.. I go to Geelong at least once a week n' quite often twice. there is the advisory speed check in Lara or Little River towards melbourne (my speedo sits at 100 when iclocked at 95) but that's all. those cameras on the sides (same as the ones in Monash Freeway), they're only surveillance/traffic cameras (not speed cameras). You're right about the western ringroad. those cameras sitting under and sometimes behind the bridges are speed cameras. you can usually tell by three strips or cuts on the road where the cameras are facing. when you drive pass those strips, it calculates your speed and activated the cameras. so, after u pass those strips you can freely increase your speed again.

They also put cameras on westgate bridge last november (about halfway towards the top of the bridge on each direction)

The one at monash freeway/citylink is city bound before the punt road exit where u usually see that chimney-like building that display time & temp and inside the tunnels. just look for the three strips/cuts on the road (if u look up, u may get confused with normal surveillance cameras). I usually put the gear on 3 and set the cruise at 80 (auto version) when descending into the tunnel.

if there were more cameras on monash freeway then i must had collected piles of speeding ticket then :) as i always speed there coz' the bloody trucks keep tailgating me when i do 100 on any lane :rant

it's very easy to go over 120 with the 6 even with the auto. once i floor the pedal it changes to second gear and get upto 115 before it changed back to third and keep revving. nice car but feel kinda sluggish from standing still (bloody auto hehe). I had a manual 1.8 protege before and i think 0-100 it's kinda the same with the 6 auto around 9.5 to 10 sec. the difference is once u get to 120 the 6 keeps revving happily.
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