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Mazda6 To Finally Get AWD Option

Mazda has announced that the Mazda 6 will get two updates. The first is that, like the CX-5, the 6 will receive the SkyActiv-D engine. In addition, it has been announced that the 6 will also receive an AWD option. There are currently no details about which trims (or which drivetrain options) will get access to the AWD system, but expect the option to be available towards the end of calendar year 2019.


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Hopefully AWD isn't just limited to the SkyActiv-D but will also come with the SkyActiv-T. However, that will probably mean that only Grand Touring and above trims will get the AWD option. Fully loaded, it will push the 6 to a $40,000 potential with all options. That's dangerous territory IMO.
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This confirms, at least for me, that the 6 will be around for the foreseeable future, and also heightens the chances for a 4th-gen...

Then again, it may indicate the 4th-gen will be out for 2020, with AWD...

Intriguing...


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AWD is available on the CX line in all trims and the 3 in all but the bottom trim. It's a $1400 option on both the 3 and CX-5. I don't see why they would do anything different on the 6 than they are on the 3, but they have been known to make some odd choices with trims in the past. That would push a 6 Signature starting price to $36,500. A Touring trim would be at $27,800. Obviously those prices would assume no other changes being made.

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This confirms, at least for me, that the 6 will be around for the foreseeable future, and also heightens the chances for a 4th-gen...

Then again, it may indicate the 4th-gen will be out for 2020, with AWD...

Intriguing...
The 4th-gen must be coming in 2020. I thought I've read already that AWD won't fit with the current platform, and it explains why they are being vague about it.

That, or the engineers finally figured out to fit it in there.

The 6 is far from being a poor seller, comparatively speaking with other Mazda vehicles. If they can keep the Miata around, the 6 should be fine.

The 2018 Mazda 6 really makes it hard to predict what Mazda is trying to do, because changes they made to the 2018 model year are things other automakers would usually wait for a complete redesign.(new interior, powertrains, heavy NVH improvements, suspension, etc) If the new platform comes in 2020, it'd probably have to look almost identical except with a new steering wheel, infotainment, and switch gear.

Either way, this is good news, especially for the 2.5L Turbo models which would definitely benefit the most from AWD.

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IMO, Mazdas platforming maybe flexible enough to allow for changes/sharing across Skyactiv 1 and 2, so the current 6 could inherit some of the goodness of Skyactiv 2. The 3rd gen 6 is a pretty nice platform. May not have the same level of structural rigidity or NVH as Skyactiv 2, but may not need to short term if the options and pricing is compelling enough to compete.

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I doubt the 6 will get AWD with the 2.5T until the next platform debuts. Mazda said AWD physically didn’t fit. The Diesel engine is different and might allow the extra room but unless something else is redesigned for the current drivetrain, probably won’t happen just yet.

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I think Mazda is making a terrible mistake offering the diesel in the Signature trim level. They are trying to market it to a customer who I do not believe exists. Generally speaking, frugal customers are not the ones willing to put almost $50k on a car. Instead, they would rather shop at the lower end of the spectrum. I think they are mixing up people who will put down large sums for the likes of a Tesla. These people are not particularly frugal, but tend to be techno-savvy above all else. Mazda should offer the diesel in its own trim (a cross between Sport and Touring, perhaps) and charge around $28k and see what happens. While I'm actually hoping for the best (I'd buy one, to be honest), I also hope that Mazda knows that if this fails...and in all likelihood it will...they will help to permanently destroy the diesel market in the the US, once and for all.

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North American passenger car diesel is ALREADY dead, the wake will be announced soon enough with the funeral right after.


Bringing a new diesel to NA is suicide.



Lastly, Mazda puts out a tremendous amount of bullshit on the internet, probably for free marketing research.

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It seems to me the Mazda6 still trails its competition by 50-120 horsepower.



Until they address that, they're going to be perceived as a cheap car, not just a slow car. It is difficult for me to consider buying another one with such a massive performance deficit compared to so much of what is on the road now.

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It seems to me the Mazda6 still trails its competition by 50-120 horsepower.



Until they address that, they're going to be perceived as a cheap car, not just a slow car. It is difficult for me to consider buying another one with such a massive performance deficit compared to so much of what is on the road now.

What are you comparing it to that has that much discrepancy in HP?

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