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Well, the unthinkable has happened. I woke up to an empty driveway this morning. Pretty sure my car was stolen. I can't imagine how. Both sets of keys were in my house. Auto door locks were active. I'm flabbergasted, but the fact remains: my baby is gone. Fuckin' breaks my heart.
Sorry to hear about that man. We live in the Seattle area. Where abouts did it happen? This causes me some concern as we have a Mazda 3 that has the proximity key and it's usually parked at the end of the driveway. I love the convenience but im not a big fan of the hack ability of the key fob.

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Sorry to hear about that man. We live in the Seattle area. Where abouts did it happen? This causes me some concern as we have a Mazda 3 that has the proximity key and it's usually parked at the end of the driveway. I love the convenience but im not a big fan of the hack ability of the key fob.
I live in Kent. I recommend looking into a GPS tracker. Lojack or something else. Haven't done any research myself but wished I had before all this.

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Whats the range that the hi-jacking device has to pick up the code off your key fob? like if your keys are next to your bad in the very back of the house?
I'm not worried just curious? I park both our Mazda's in the garage anyways.

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Sorry to hear about that man. We live in the Seattle area. Where abouts did it happen? This causes me some concern as we have a Mazda 3 that has the proximity key and it's usually parked at the end of the driveway. I love the convenience but im not a big fan of the hack ability of the key fob.
I live in Kent. I recommend looking into a GPS tracker. Lojack or something else. Haven't done any research myself but wished I had before all this.

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Good advice... again, sorry about the car. Hopefully the insurance claim will go smoothly.

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Whats the range that the hi-jacking device has to pick up the code off your key fob? like if your keys are next to your bad in the very back of the house?
I'm not worried just curious? I park both our Mazda's in the garage anyways.

Don't know for sure, and there are multiple devices that thieves can buy, so the working range likely varies. This isn't the first time I've heard about cars being stolen right out of people's driveways while the keys were safely inside the house, so personally, I wouldn't roll the dice.


Faraday bags are $15 to $20. Buy two of them. One for the spare key, and (as much as it's a pain in the ass) get in the habit of always storing your primary key in the other bag whenever you park outside (in the driveway, at the grocery store, at work, etc.)


The bags really work. I've tested them on our cars. With the key in the pouch, you can't open the doors from 2" away or start the engine even if you're sitting inside the car.
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Faraday bags are $15 to $20. Buy two of them. One for the spare key, and (as much as it's a pain in the ass) get in the habit of always storing your primary key in the other bag whenever you park outside (in the driveway, at the grocery store, at work, etc.)
Pretty much nulls the point of a keyless system - in which only advantage is NOT having to take your key out of your pocket. Now, you are taking your key in and out of a faraday bag - and I assume you are having to take the faraday bag in and out of your pocket, or purse, in order to take the key in/out of the faraday bag... NO?

Mfg have known about this problem for years, and still make this crap?? About your only choice is driving rather old cars. Heyday for car burglars...thanks to mfgs....

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Pretty much nulls the point of a keyless system - in which only advantage is NOT having to take your key out of your pocket. Now, you are taking your key in and out of a faraday bag - and I assume you are having to take the faraday bag in and out of your pocket, or purse, in order to take the key in/out of the faraday bag... NO?

Yup...most worthless convenience feature introduced in recent years, catering to peak laziness. Seriously, how hard could it possibly be to pull your key out and use it to get into and turn on your car? ^@%#&! idiots that invented keyless entry/start technologies and even stupider manufacturers for buying into it.
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The push-button part doesn't rankle me, because you need to take an ACTION to turn on the RF transmitter, which means you need to be able to put your paws on it.

That's roughly equivalent to inserting a key AND a cryptographic rolling code is more secure than a physical key, just on the number of combinations available.

However, proximity keys are another matter. There you've gone from "two factors" (must possess a thing and do something with the thing) to one factor (mere possession) and now you've MASSIVELY decreased security.

I started writing articles on this nearly 10 years ago, and nobody gave a damn. Well, now the cars are disappearing..... gee, big shock.

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It was obviously towed lol
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WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING

"button less doors?

Does the GT have no buttons on the doors?

I have the advanced keyless entry 2014 and it has a button.
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