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Looking to update the car with HID lights, probably the Apexcone 6000k from RPM, but just want to know if the glare removal mod has an affect on the light out put. Meaning will this affect the beam to not project as far as normal?

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unfortunately the answer is yes. But it makes you have a retrofit look & doesnt blind oncoming traffic. I also color modded mine, but i wont have pics for another 3 weeks until i get my halo's in.
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Actually, light output will not decrease due to the glare removal mod. I did install HIDS and did the glare mod, I will eventually due the retro fit.

The only thing that the glare piece does is take light and reflect it up to light up street signs better. HID's are a whole lot brighter and that glare piece will redirect way too much light upwards and blind oncoming traffic.

Once you remove the piece you can aim the light SLIGHTLY and I repeat SLIGHTLY higher to get the light up of the street signs.

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Actually, light output will not decrease due to the glare removal mod. I did install HIDS and did the glare mod, I will eventually due the retro fit.

The only thing that the glare piece does is take light and reflect it up to light up street signs better. HID's are a whole lot brighter and that glare piece will redirect way too much light upwards and blind oncoming traffic.

Once you remove the piece you can aim the light SLIGHTLY and I repeat SLIGHTLY higher to get the light up of the street signs.

Hope this helps dont forget to post pics[/b]
what ^ said.

When you remove this peice the light will go from being "bled" upwards, to now directly infront, as to where it should go....that piece is there to bleed the light up from our halogen projectors.

So whenver you do decide to get around to do this... i'd def. recommend you taking the reflective piece out when you have the headlight in hand...because trying to get it off when the lamps are on the car is a PITA...good luck and yes tons of pictures are always appreciated!


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I have the Apexcone 6000K 50W HID using the stock projectors and no "glare mod" ... it works fine for me. Had it a few months now and so far it work perfectly with no arguments/harassments (flashes, pull-over etc...) whatsoever from other drivers and police. Then again I only had it for a few months.

Just adjust your cutoff according to the legal limits and should have no problems.


I work at night, so It's in use everyday.


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A halogen projector with a HID Kit bulb is a mis-match . HID bulbs are uniquely made and different from filament Halogen bulbs . HID bulbs are to be accompanied by specially adapted HID projector bowls to reflect light in a superior fashion compared to Halogen in general .

To the untrained eye the WOW factor of a kit is the same for everyone at first , including me . I'm glad I didn't buy into a kit like I thought I should at first . Something inside kept me hesitating too with all I was reading here , despite the fact I hated to have to open up my headlight housings if I chose to retrofit . Today I recieved my TSX projectors from Canada Post

I know of some that went ahead and bought them kits and no later than a few months ; traded them in for True HID projectors . At first it's all ''eye-candy'' but then you realize that bunch of intense hot-spots of mis-directed light in the foreground is too much ; when you can't see past it 'cause your pupils are tightened (like a flashlight in your eyes) ! Very unsafe ! With a true HID projector with its super razor sharp cut-off and evenly smooth beam spread .... you end up seeing the night & day difference .

This is what you should know when it comes to HID Halogen kits (see following link for addtional wisdom)
pics taken from http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3505

Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing
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This is what HID is suppose to look like.. Pictured is a STi
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Talk about a Razor Sharp Cutoff. Pictured is a S2000 OEM setup
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HID KIT vs. True HID
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check out what a "kit" does to stock Neon headlights lol....
Notice the glare and VERY uncontrolled pattern with a bunch of hotspots?
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instead of posting what they do to a neon's stock headlights, why not show what they do to a 6? obviously retro is the best way to go, but the 6, from what i've seen both from pictures and in person, handles HIDs just fine, without those hotspots and much glare at all. i've always been very impressed with the output and how even it was.

and those disaster pics are just that...disasters on other cars with (likely) a bad install or poor quality HID setup. apples and oranges.


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instead of posting what they do to a neon's stock headlights, why not show what they do to a 6? obviously retro is the best way to go, but the 6, from what i've seen both from pictures and in person, handles HIDs just fine, without those hotspots and much glare at all. i've always been very impressed with the output and how even it was.

and those disaster pics are just that...disasters on other cars with (likely) a bad install or poor quality HID setup. apples and oranges.[/b]
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My cutoff from my stock 2003 projectors and aftermarket HID kits are almost flawless and very sharp. Didn't even require to that glare modifictaion mod that so many did.


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Disaster pix. HID kit in Halogen Housing
[attachment=25455:Mad_Glar...using_00.jpg]
[attachment=25456:Mad_Glar...using_01.jpg]

check out what a "kit" does to stock Neon headlights lol....
Notice the glare and VERY uncontrolled pattern with a bunch of hotspots?
[attachment=25461:HID_Kit_...spots_01.jpg][/b]

Those are non-projector headlights! ...

To my knowledge... all 6 have projectors and will give you that sharp cutoff... maybe not that "RAZOR SHARP" w/o some additional mods. But still... great cutoff.


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Is it possible to install HIDs and do this "glare removal mod" without baking open the headlights? This is the first I've heard of the mod, so don't know how it goes.

Its sad, the main reason I don't get angel eyes is because I have rockblocker tint on my headlights, and it cost $50. I'm pretty sure it'd be screwed if I baked my headlights, and I don't want to waste that money.

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you don't open the headlights for the reflector removal, you just remove them from the car.


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