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Using a separate harness is just cheap insurance. It may take many years for problems to show up when overloading the stock wires, depending on the gauge used from the factory. Many owners may not see problems for the length of ownership of the car. After all, you are only overloading it for a short period of time (only during start up) and so the heat that is generated is also brief. It does not continuously overload the wires like high wattage halogen bulbs. But over time, the resistance of the wires can increase due to overload, which perpetuates the heat problem.

If you plan on keeping your car for many years, you may see the problems arise later on.

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Thanks for the link, exactly what I was looking for.

Looking on there I have a good feeling. When I set everything out last night and went throught it in my head that is close to what I had come up with. I hope I can make mine turn out as clean as his. That stuff will blend right in to the stock wiring. Thanks again.


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That's great technical info, but then there is real-world info.

There are many people that have been running HID's for over 2 years (myself included; in fact, I have 2 sets of HIDs) without any problems. I personally would not spend the money for a harness, the car handles a 35w HID kit just fine with no issues. A harness helps them start up faster (by about 1-2 seconds) but other than that provides no value at all.
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i have the 8000K McCulloch HID's on my 6 with a stock harness and ive never had a problem. i had HID's on my last car as well with a stock harness and never once had a proble. i personally wouldnt spend the money on the harness.
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Not only does it protect the factory headlight circuit, but it also helps to extend the life of the HID ballast. Ballast will last longer if they dont have to struggle on intial start up. <--- only time will tell.

HID should last the life time of the vehicle- depending on the quality of the parts. If it doesnt or prematurely fails, then you&#39;ll know.

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1 more side note, aftermarket ballast fail prematurely than OEM ballast.

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Not only does it protect the factory headlight circuit, but it also helps to extend the life of the HID ballast. Ballast will last longer if they dont have to struggle on intial start up. <--- only time will tell.

HID should last the life time of the vehicle- depending on the quality of the parts. If it doesnt or prematurely fails, then you&#39;ll know.
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actually HID&#39;s are estimated to last 2000 - 3000 hours depending on the manufacturer. alot of people believe they are sapose to last the life of the car, but they dont. i see a fair amount of vehicles with stock HID&#39;s that have one burnt out.


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actually HID&#39;s are estimated to last 2000 - 3000 hours depending on the manufacturer. alot of people believe they are sapose to last the life of the car, but they dont. i see a fair amount of vehicles with stock HID&#39;s that have one burnt out.
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good point, but that only for the bulbs only.... no bulbs will last forever... philips/osram D1/2R/S (or even D4R/S) bulbs have lifespan of 2000 hours... with colorshift at ~200hours.. aftermarket ones prob, we&#39;re looking at 1000-1500 hours of lifespan or less... OEM ballast (w or w/o ignitor) will last very long as long as you remember the 3 rules : never turn HIDs on 3 times/hour, never turn it off then on before the bulbs cool down, NO WATER !!! there are some other rules, but these are the more important ones IMO.

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actually HID&#39;s are estimated to last 2000 - 3000 hours depending on the manufacturer. alot of people believe they are sapose to last the life of the car, but they dont. i see a fair amount of vehicles with stock HID&#39;s that have one burnt out.
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So your telling me you car is gonna last 3000+ hours of night driving? Thats a whole lotta miles.

Lets say the avearge car last 200,000 miles. How many mile of that driving was at night? How many hours coud that have been?

Oh and this is assuming you only use your low beam HID for night driving and not as DRL.


Lets say average highway speed at 65 miles per hour all at night with lights on. 2000 hours of night driving at 65 MPH is about 130,000 miles.

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i dont think miles is an accurate way of measuring the life span of HIDs.

for a 2000~ hours life

let&#39;s say u drive an avg of 1.5 hour during night time per day (and this is EVERYDAY we are talking about, and that&#39;s a lot), it would come to about 4years or so?

but that&#39;s assuming you drive that much each night every night.

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Yeah true

but still a $40 harness isnt bad insurance. Or you can make your own for like $10.

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