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Since the laws are different between the US and Europe, the cutoff shields tend to be a little different. ECE projectors tend to have a bigger step in the cutoff compared to DOT versions. They also tend to have less light above the cutoff compared to DOT because DOT requires some light to shine upwards so you can see the overhead signs (like on highways).

But there are some DOT projectors that have really sharp cutoffs and a very small step, like the TSX and S2000 projectors.

Here is what the Bosch ECE E46 Projectors look like (taken from HIDPlanet)...





Here is what the Bosch DOT E46 Projectors look like. Notice the step is smaller in the cutoff.




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... and to add to that excellent description, the biggest difference between an E46 DOT and ECE projector is the lense itself. The DOT projector has a textured lense, making it appear milky. The ECE lense is crystal clear. Net result is more light through-put in the ECE projector and more color produced at the cutoff.

The ECE projectors spread light more to the sides whereas the DOT projectors throw light further down the road, or so I hear.

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Honestly, no picture does it justice.. all you see is a diference in color especially since the camera will adjust exposure to reduce brigthness since it seems too bright. My suggestion would be to find somone with projectors and get in their car and see for yourself. I was in my cousins acura TL and man that thing shines like no other. You dont think that your stock 6 has a "yellow" light until you sit behind the wheel of that thing. Its BRIGHT.
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I think you hit the nail on the head of what I need, but have found it impossible to do. Nobody I know owns a car with HID's and I would need to take it out in the country on a back road to get the comparison I'm trying to get. The times I have driven an HID-equipped car at night, the ambient lighting was to the extent the headlamps did little, and I could not tell the difference.

I understand the theory and the science, but need to be convinced that in practice the light goes where I want it to go, and the pictures I see really leave me concerned it won't light up the ditches well enough and far enough ahead.

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so your saying your halogens light up the ditches?

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Man, I've driven my mom's RX8 with factory HIDS, and let me tell you, the difference is unbelievable. It's like daytime in front of that car.


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so the ECE's provide more color at the cutoff and a little more light than DOT? and DOT is pretty much different in the amount of light output, and the fact that the light tends to shine upwards more than ECE?
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Pretty much, yeah. Think about it this way: DOT is great, but ECE is the win. Better output, better color.


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damn, no the question is whether or not i will pull out the CC for this one. i defenitely want it. and if it can be done with two right-side lights, then i'm all for it.
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Yeah, I didn't think it could be, but now.... Well, let's just say that when the ballasts are back in stock at Hidplanet, I'll be pulling the trigger. Great deal for $400 shipped with ECE projectors and brand new Hella electronics. No "lifetiime" warranty, but it shouldn't have the problems that plague Xtec.


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yeah, 400 isn't bad...but i also am wanting the DDE's. and since you have to take the headlight apart for the both of them, i might just buy one and wait to put it in until i buy the second. just a little less work for me, i guess.
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