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Reading Topic: Reading Topic: HID vs. Silverstar vs. Standard Halogen

Something to consider... A re-based aftermarket kit may not work with HID projectors because the projector includes the bulb housing which accepts the base for D2S only. You'd need some sort of adapter ring (if one exists).
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kyler13, can you confirm that there is ECE compliant projectors fit for our car.
Really hope someone can do the experiment for it.

I ask illusion-lighting, they said ECE projectors will cost $225 with D2S bulb housing base.
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just to add something about cutoff beams....

I just got the McCulloch/Boehman HID from the GB and got the 6000k lights. The color is REALLY blue.... which was what I thought 8000k would look like... however I just have pictures off the internet to base my judgement. So, anyway, I have noticeably blue headlights.... but the cutoff beam has a nasty tinge of green. Others have said their cutoffs were yellow for their 4100k HIDs, thus this makes me conclude that mine are green through a mixture of blue and yellow. So, that's something to be aware of.... light green cutoffs on bluer kits.


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My low beam hid is 6000k, it looks like some red taste in white and blue. Yesterday, I changed the bulb from 6000k to 4300k, find the lights became more yellow and green under cutoff. But same 4300k bulb is very white on my high beam headlights.

So I think the low beam projector is the main reason, it fits for halogen bulb not designed for HID.
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The color of the cut off has nothing to do with if the projector is designed for HID or not. It's just that the lens' angel is not the same as bimmers or audi so it doesn't have the so call "cool blue" that most ppl are looking for. I bet that if you go to the other side of the world and find a mazda6 that has HID as factory option, it will look the same color as yours if you swap their bulbs into your housing. (i don't see any reason that mazda would make 2 different projectors as they work the same way and it's more cost efficient to make just 1 type of projecotrs)

Robinlb, the reason your high beam looks different than ur low is that they are reflectors not projectors.

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Originally posted by heronew@Dec 22 2004, 07:21 AM
The color of the cut off has nothing to do with if the projector is designed for HID or not. It's just that the lens' angel is not the same as bimmers or audi so it doesn't have the so call "cool blue" that most ppl are looking for. I bet that if you go to the other side of the world and find a mazda6 that has HID as factory option, it will look the same color as yours if you swap their bulbs into your housing. (i don't see any reason that mazda would make 2 different projectors as they work the same way and it's more cost efficient to make just 1 type of projecotrs)

Robinlb, the reason your high beam looks different than ur low is that they are reflectors not projectors.
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Thanks, but I think the effect of high beam with factory reflectors is quite well for hid than low.
As same time, I find that our factory headlight is also made by hella (automotive lighting Co.). It marks "H1 or D2S" for low beam on its outside, may means that factory HID is using different projectors and D2S bulbs.

I will decide to buy a pair of ECE spec projectors to replace stock ones, and need to disassemble the headlight. If I finished, I will report.
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I took apart a damaged headlamp yesterday(simply heat the waterproof silica gel on edge by a hair drier), and took out the halogen projector.

Here some info I founded:

The projector marks "ECE H1 LHD LH", means that it is a ECE spec halogen projcetor already, and the copper bar is in behind of the lens. The diameter of lens is about 2.5 inch(may the smaller one), so as to find a same size hid projector to repalce it, and mount a D2S kit, the hid retro will be successful achieve the factory hid effect I think.

Next is to find the correct projector such as bosch.
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