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Given my commute in DC metro area, having a manual isn't high up on my priorities. Stinger GT is auto as is the G70 with a V6, i think only the 4 cyl 2.0 comes with a manual option. Both cars tick all the boxes that i am looking for in a sporty sedan that'll make my commute bearable, and are hence in my short list as potential replacement when i retire my Mazda.
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Some people (myself included) were disappointed when Mazda decided that only the Sport trim would receive a manual transmission option for 2018. Now, Mazda has gone a step further and removed the manual option altogether. Starting in 2019, those wishing to row their own gears will only have the Mazda 3 Grand Touring or the Miata MX5 as their choices.


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2019 Mazda 6 ditches the 6MT in the US

https://www.carscoops.com/2019/03/20...-speed-manual/


Idiots. Mazda is claiming the decision is based on "declining market demand" without recognizing how much they contributed to accelerating killing that demand by removing the 6MT from the Touring spec last year. I opted for a left-over 2017.5 6MT because getting the 2018 Sport would have meant losing a ton of features that were available in the previous year's Touring model and putting up with the ugly weird new cloth upholstery.
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Time to accept you guys rowing gears are a dying breed.

OEM's are no longer able to appeal to everyone. They must go the direction of what keeps them healthy, profitable.

The future is not a manual trans.

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They can do whatever the hell they want.

My MTX "6" has 170,000 miles on it right now. The clutch is fine.

If it fails I'll buy one. Which it EVENTUALLY will -- like at 300-400k miles, maybe. MAYBE. My 03 Jetta which my KID learned to drive on, and now has as hers, has 270,000 miles on the OEM clutch and THAT is with bigger nozzles in it! It will eventually fail too, but the clutch is $200. Really -- $200. The bolts that have to be replaced (TTY, so one-time-use) are another $35 or so. Really. If the rear main is leaking when I take it out (probably, at that point) it's another $30 or so. Wowie, what a major expense. NOT! An ATX would be $5 large PLUS and economically destroy the car, and there's no way it would go 300,000+ miles with nothing other than fluid changes. Cut the crap.

If the carmakers want to make 100,000 mile vehicles that fall apart I remember that -- it was in the 1970s. I won't buy that garbage. You do what you want. I'll buy older cars and keep them on the road - they'll never sell me a new one again.
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Time to accept you guys rowing gears are a dying breed.

OEM's are no longer able to appeal to everyone. They must go the direction of what keeps them healthy, profitable.

The future is not a manual trans.
I'm not going down without a fight however. Definitely glad I bought when I did. Honda Accord (Sport), Civic Si, Jetta GLI, Golf GTI (which VW says ~50% opt for manual) and the Mazda3 would be all on my current short list. More listed in the article below...you guys might get a kick out of the top picture lol.

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and there's no way it would go 300,000+ miles with nothing other than fluid changes. Cut the crap.
You mean like our recent poster who posted their ATX went 290K before she replaced it. You know the ATX that had NEVER been serviced...

Cutting the crap, there a more than just a few going 300K miles with or without being serviced. Welcome to the modern world. Def not the 70's anymore.

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I bought my 6 knowing pragmatically that it would likely be the last new MTX vehicle I'd be able to buy. I love the car, and hope I can get 250,000+ miles out of it. By the time I'm ready to replace it, I'll be fine driving an automatic.



The Mazda automatics are already phenomenal today. They'll only get better with another 10 or 15 years of engineering improvements.
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You mean like our recent poster who posted their ATX went 290K before she replaced it. You know the ATX that had NEVER been serviced...

Cutting the crap, there a more than just a few going 300K miles with or without being serviced. Welcome to the modern world. Def not the 70's anymore.
C'mon, idrive... Just let us "oil resource / ATF squanderers" have our way; we just agree to differ with you no-transmission-service-needed folks.

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