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post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-25-2015, 06:27 AM
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you can read the message while driving, its there. Or press the play button to listen to it. And yes the disclaimer will disappear on its own. The Navigation they are working on, so I've heard.
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My wife's 2012 Journey with Uconnect has a warning message as well. Takes just as long to disappear and is equally annoying, lol.

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I get what you're saying due to the old "CYA" method in this litigious society, however, to gray out a lot of functionalities in the name of keeping you "safe" does not enable safety, what it enables is some people to get frustrated and reach for the phone device after all because they can't wait to check who wrote them. I think it defeats the overall purpose of staying hands free.
I do recall that there is a way to remove the grayed out. There is a wire you can snip since all it does it check to see what speed you are going. But then again this was like on 04-06 vehicles
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I get what you're saying due to the old "CYA" method in this litigious society, however, to gray out a lot of functionalities in the name of keeping you "safe" does not enable safety, what it enables is some people to get frustrated and reach for the phone device after all because they can't wait to check who wrote them. I think it defeats the overall purpose of staying hands free.
You seem to be confused about Mazda's goal here. Their goal is not necessarily to increase safety as much as it is to limit their own financial liability. If you were distracted by reading text on the built-in screen while driving, it could be (relatively) easy to make a case that that's Mazda's fault, for putting that text in front of you while you should be doing something else (like driving the car).

If you don't have the text in front of you but pull out your phone to read the message there instead, it would be pretty hard (again, relatively speaking) to argue that that's Mazda's fault.

Mazda isn't doing these things to protect our asses. Mazda is doing these things to protect their own ass.
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I am not confused about their goal and I actually agree with you. But it is stupid because say you start driving and then you hit NAVI and the disclaimer comes up (a very long one and in small print), if someone gets in accident they could also just as well blame it on them trying to read the disclaimer being put in front of them before agreeing by clicking on OK. Anyway, a bit stretched but that is my point, not consistent for safety but yeah, indeed I agree that they're just CYA-ing (as do others too, I'm sure). By the way, I am an Environmental, Health & Safety professional, that's what I do for a living, so I am not advocating defeating the system or texting and driving, etc. All I'm saying is that, even as a safety professional, the way they do things in the name of 'safety' is not right. Disclaimers don't provide safety (except for covering their asses, and even then disclaimers don't always work for them; tort liability goes beyond disclaimers if gross negligence is proven), smart functionalities would be better. Anyway, my opinion only. Thank you.
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The warning on my '16 doesn't come up when I hit 'NAV.' It comes up as soon as the unit powers up. You say yours comes up after driving a while and when you hit NAV? You sure?
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Yeah, on my 2014s (I have two), if the screen was off and you started driving and then hit NAVI, the disclaimer will come on and stay on until you click "OK" or "Agree", whichever it is, every time after starting the car. I'm sure. I'm not referring to when you already had Navi on (and had already accepted the disclaimer) and you go from Navi to either Audio/Phone/Setup (in any order or combination) and back to Navi, but every time after every engine power up, whether stopped or when moving.

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Do you have to turn your screen off manually, or does it need to be turned on everytime you start the car? On the 16, it starts up automatically.
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Do you have to turn your screen off manually, or does it need to be turned on everytime you start the car? On the 16, it starts up automatically.
In the 2014s, if I want the screen to turn off I have to do it manually. If I had turned it off manually then it would stay off even after the next time I turn the car on; to turn it on I would have to hit Navi (it also turns on by hitting Setup, Phone and/or Audio), and the disclaimer would come up when in Navi until I accept it. If I had not turned it off manually, then the next time I power up the car the screen would turn on (in whichever mode it was left and the disclaimer would display in Navi mode). It doesn't go away automatically.

I know about the 2016 because I also have a 2016 CX-5 GT, and yes, I believe it turns on automatically and the disclaimer goes away by itself. But I can turn the screen off manually too. Wait, now that I think about it, if the screen had been manually turned off, I believe at the next engine power up the screen turns on and shows the disclaimer for a few seconds, I hit agree, and I think it then goes back to off until I hit Navi. Can't recall for sure right now.

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If you think that's bad, you should see the product I work on. Users can be hit by half a dozen separate pop-up liability notices if they have the right configuration. All have to be manually accepted before they can use the product.

It's 100% to prevent lawsuits. This product includes automatic steering functionality and other things that could kill you or someone else if you don't know how to use it.

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