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Yup, all US trims were indicated to have standard LED headlights in 2018 as well


...which incidentally also strongly implies that unlike the 2016 mid cycle refresh, all 2018 trim levels will get the revised bodywork. I can't see Mazda developing unique LED headlights for the original body style, just so they can offer it on carryover Sport and Touring models.
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The base GS model in Canada now comes with LED headlights.

https://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeatur...drops-manuals/
Based on link i was right. For '18, Canada loses the 6MT + loses GX/Sport trim. What i can't understand or at least have yet to see is whether USA gets the 6MT and gets the Sport trim still.

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Yes, it's been covered earlier in this thread. In the US, we retain the 6MT (at least for 2018), but it will be limited to only the Sport trim level. Based what we know, this what the US lineup is going to look like:


Sport - 4 cylinder normally aspirated 6MT (no cylinder deactivation)
Sport - 4 cylinder normally aspirated Auto (with cylinder deactivation)
Touring - 4 cylinder normally aspirated Auto (with cylinder deactivation)
Touring - Optional 4 cylinder turbocharged Auto
GT - 4 cylinder turbocharged Auto
Signature - 4 cylinder turbocharged Auto
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Do you think Mazda is Saving the Turbo engine with M/T for the new SPEED series?
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Pretty amazing that USA gets the 6MT... in that i) Mazda would have to EPA-certify that engine (i think?) for a very small number of vehicle sales over which to amortize those certification costs and ii) the fuel economy differential between 6MT versus 6AT may now be really substantial. In any case, kudos to Mazda. I'd bet that performance figures are better with the 6MT than for the previous model years of Gen 3 cars, what with the lesser internal friction / more HP, more torque.

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Do you think Mazda is Saving the Turbo engine with M/T for the new SPEED series?
That'd be nice. It'd have to use the diesel model's 6MT though...higher torque capacity in that 'box....

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On second thought it'd also, for all intents and purposes, have to have All Wheel Drive. I do think Mazda has all of the parts to do this already in the parts bin... but i think they'd have to bolster their finances first by selliing many, many CX5's and 3's first...lol.

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...In any case, kudos to Mazda. I'd bet that performance figures are better with the 6MT than for the previous model years of Gen 3 cars, what with the lesser internal friction / more HP, more torque.

Sorry...don't know what you mean about lesser internal friction / more HP, more torque with the 6MT. The turbo engine is not going to be available (at least for now) on the manual transmission trim. Neither is cylinder deactivation. As far as I can tell, manual transmission buyers will get the same engine as last year. And performance will likely be worse because the car will weigh more (due to NVH improvements and the use of thicker sheet metal). All indications are that you'll get a higher quality build that feels slower than previous MT models.


If you can live without the manual transmission, that turbo automatic should be pretty sweet though...And the best part is that you'll likely be able to get it on the Touring trim for less than $28K.
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Good point. The complete 2017.5 engine/6MT may carry over to the US spec 2018 Sport 6MT ... without the friction reducing measures being used...Hm... I should explain that the cyl deactivation employed on the 2018 naturally aspirated 2.5 (A/T vehicles only) also combines friction reducing measures applied to the engine that increase efficiency and also increase apparently the bottom end torque, or so they say. Having the friction reducing elements but not the cyl deactivation (if this were contemplated for the 2018 6MT) may complicate production. However the 2018 Mazda3 2.5 does not hav cyl deactivation (nor the friction reduction measures, nearest as i can tell) ... same powertrain as 2017... so likely the 2018 Mazda6 uses that engine/6MT combination. Curious, what did Mazda say re sheet metal now being thicker? All over the place? That's one thing that strikes me about my 2017... very thin sheet metal. I often seem to (without intending to) tap the rocker panel with my left foot when getting into the car. The sound, then, gives the impression of thin sheet metal...

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... have to have All Wheel Drive. I do think Mazda has all of the parts to do this already in the parts bin...
Yes, Mazda built an AWD 2018 Mazda6 Turbo and had it tested by NHTSA, where was listed for awhile before Mazda had it taken down. Mazda found there were problems with putting that combination in the 6 platform, and decided not to produce it for now.
Previous posts on this subject:
http://forum.mazda6club.com/newbie-s...ml#post4953170
http://forum.mazda6club.com/2-5l-tur...ml#post4949194

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