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KWhale · 11-15-2012, 07:16 PM

Ok. I need new tires soon. Cannot get the Continental Extremecontact DWS set because they are backordered until next year and i need them sooner than that. Bridgestone Potenzas are out of my price range. I am torn between the Kumho Ecsta 4X and the General G-MAX AS-03. I like them both and they are about the same price. May not make a difference but the size is 225/45R18 on a set of RX-8 wheels and driving in the standard IL weather (ie shit).

Any opinions on them? I just can't figure out which set to get.

Mr.Smoke · 11-15-2012, 07:21 PM

I had a set of Kuhmo tires on a previous car and enjoyed them. Never used either of those exact tires but did have a good experiance with Kuhmo so they get my vote.

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MATR6 · 11-15-2012, 11:43 PM

235/40s will probably fit the RX8s better & the DWS in that size is in stock at Tirerack.

KWhale · 11-16-2012, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MATR6

235/40s will probably fit the RX8s better & the DWS in that size is in stock at Tirerack.

I saw that on there but I just like the way the 225/45 look. Plus, idk if the 235/40 size will give me rubbing issues. I have already had them with the current 225/45.

corey6 · 11-16-2012, 07:58 AM

i have the gmax as-03's and fuckin love them. had them for about 15k now and there is legit almost no wear.

MATR6 · 11-16-2012, 08:03 AM

http://www.conti-online.com/generato...tasheet_en.pdf

The 225/45 has a diameter of 26in & width of 8.9in while the 235/40 has width of 25.4 & width of 9.5, so it might be wider tire, but will give you 1/2in more fender gap, which may reduce the rubbing.
You should roll your fenders with RX8s anyways.

Mz6GreyGhost · 11-16-2012, 08:51 AM

Between the Kumhos and Generals, I'd get the Generals. I've been hearing nothing but great things about the Generals lately. The Kumhos are also probably a good choice, but they're quite new to the market (a year old IIRC), and the verdict is still out on them in terms of long-term use.

If you're willing to experiment on the size, I'd jump at the DWS.

corey6 · 11-16-2012, 09:09 AM

yeah i was stuck between the kumhos and the generals and the wear rate on the kumhos were pretty bad. SO i got the generals. Great grip around corners, quiet, takes bumps a little harder because of the stiffer sidewall but it helps alot with handleing. and they are wearing fantastic.

KWhale · 11-17-2012, 12:58 AM

MATR6, I do have them rolled. Are there any benefits to a wider and slightly smaller (diameter) tire besides looks? Everyone else, thanks for the input. Currenty have Kumho ASX's on now so i think i might give the generals a try

MATR6 · 11-17-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KWhale

MATR6, I do have them rolled. Are there any benefits to a wider and slightly smaller (diameter) tire besides looks? Everyone else, thanks for the input. Currenty have Kumho ASX's on now so i think i might give the generals a try

I had 225/45/18s on my 18X7 with 42mm offset & rear fenders rolled & they rubbed over bumps & RR crossings. Switched to 225/40 & the rubbing went away. 225/45 is higher profile than OEM, so the suspension is not set up for both the aggressive offset of the RX8s & higher profile tire.
Since you can't really change the offset of the wheels w/o getting new ones, changing to a lower/wider tire might reduce the rubbing.
There are wheel/tire calculators online that help with the calculations.
A wider & lower profile tire will help with handling but a loss in little ride quality.
Good luck.
You should come to one of our Midwest meets. A few guys run RX8s & you can see what tires they're running.

11-15-2012, 07:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
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11-15-2012, 11:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
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MATR6 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 572 Thanks: 64 Thanked 81 Times in 66 Posts Groans: 2 Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 16 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	http://www.conti-online.com/generato...tasheet_en.pdf The 225/45 has a diameter of 26in & width of 8.9in while the 235/40 has width of 25.4 & width of 9.5, so it might be wider tire, but will give you 1/2in more fender gap, which may reduce the rubbing. You should roll your fenders with RX8s anyways. __________________ '07 Speed6 GT LPM #8903 AutoExe Low Down Springs \| Billstein HD \| CARLED Tailights \| Mazdaspeed OC \| Redline Goods SB \| TWM Stage 1 SS & Bushings \| XCarlink \| Enkei RS5 18X7 42mm offset \| 225/40 Hankook Ventus V12 EVO K110

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corey6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Worcester Ma Posts: 1,550 Thanks: 93 Thanked 126 Times in 114 Posts Groans: 1 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 5 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i was stuck between the kumhos and the generals and the wear rate on the kumhos were pretty bad. SO i got the generals. Great grip around corners, quiet, takes bumps a little harder because of the stiffer sidewall but it helps alot with handleing. and they are wearing fantastic. __________________

11-17-2012, 12:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
KWhale Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Peoria, IL Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 1 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	MATR6, I do have them rolled. Are there any benefits to a wider and slightly smaller (diameter) tire besides looks? Everyone else, thanks for the input. Currenty have Kumho ASX's on now so i think i might give the generals a try __________________ 2003 Mazda 6i MTX Glacier Silver Last edited by KWhale; 11-17-2012 at 01:03 AM.

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