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Old 08-08-2009, 05:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I AM IN THE MARKET FOR NEW SUMMER TIRES AND CANT BE BREAKING THE BANK. I WON'T BE USING IT ON THE TRACK. I DO LIKE TO DRIVE AGRESSIVLY BUT I DO HAVE A 20 MILE COMMUTE EACH WAY OF HIGHWAY DRIVING TO AND FROM WORK DAILY. THESE TIRES LOOKED PRETTY GOOD ESPECIALLY THE PRICE AND THE REVIEWS THEY HAVE RECEIVED.

DOES ANYONE HAVE AN EXPERIENCES WITH THESE. I AM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING WITH A HARDER COMPOUND FOR BETTER LIFE. RIGHT NOW THE KUMHO ECSTAS ARE ON MY CAR NOW AND I HATE THEM FOR BEING TOO SOFT ON MY CONNECTICUT COUNTRY BACK ROADS


On a side note, I was wondering if I could go one size wider on the stock MS6 wheels. Would it work first of all and would there be any negative affects on the car?
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Mine just got in today in 235/40/18 to go on my rx8 wheels. I'll post here to let ya know how they are... but I'm coming from stock, so they're going to fucking rock almost no matter what.
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the V12 is too new to have alot of data on it. but C&D loved it, how it will wear is unknown, yes you can go to a 225 without too many issues.

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yea i was at work and everything at work stays caps. I spoke to a guy at town fair tire which is a place i wont have them install them. But he said if i go one size wider I will def get more grip, but will also get worse gass mileage. this is my daily driver so gas mileage is sometimes key. is this true about the loss of gas mileage. what else would be affected
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Minuses - Noisier, worse gas mileage, greater chance to hydroplane, shittier in snow, tire longevity questionable without proper alignment (SPC Balljoints)

Pluses - more grip, shorter stopping distances, better in the wet (to a point, see above)
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looks like i will stay stocker size
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QUOTE (Brandini @ Aug 10 2009, 02:01 PM)
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Minuses - Noisier, worse gas mileage, greater chance to hydroplane, shittier in snow, tire longevity questionable without proper alignment (SPC Balljoints)

Pluses - more grip, shorter stopping distances, better in the wet (to a point, see above)[/b]
Noisier - ehh maybe, but thats across the same tire, but across two different tires thats impossible to say really, it could easily be quieter just cause that tire is a real quiet tire...

Worse gas milage - again, even if the tire is wider it may be lighter in which case you may get better gas milage, either way the difference is prolly not quantifiable for the daily driver...

Hydroplaning - again across the same tire yes wider = better odds, but with a different tire its tough to say, and again the difference is prolly pretty small

Shittier in snow - well duh you dont run UHP or extreeme performance tires in snow... thats like saying dick chaney is a worse playmate candidate than james earl jones...

Longevity, again compared to stock (UTG 120) just about ANYTHING is going to last longer....
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I have a set of these in 235/45/17 to be mounted on my 17x7.5 Rotas - the price was great (onlinetires.com). I'm worried about the wear a bit, but I figure they can't be too much worse than the Kumho SPT's werer (I know the treadwear of the SPT's is higher, but they wear quick!)

As soon as I get them mounted and a few miles, I'll post a review.

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Went from the Kumho Escta to the V12 and i love them. I cant tell on the wear since i have only had them on for a little bit. I got a good deal on them from tire-easy.com. If you dont mind dealing with a german company, i ordered mine and had them on my door step in 3 days for $50 shipping. I like them a lot. I was worried about the wear as well but i thought that it could not be worse than my Kumho's. So i bought them.
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the V12 is too new to have alot of data on it. but C&D loved it, how it will wear is unknown, yes you can go to a 225 without too many issues.[/b]
Actually, the Ventus V12 evo has been pretty thoroughly wrung out in a couple of in-depth tests by German enthusiast magazines. The Car and Driver test was a very strange one, beginning with the headline. While it is common for headlines to be written by someone other than the person who read the story.

In the German tests, the Ventus V12 evo turned in the shortest braking distances of all the tires tested, both on dry pavement and on wet pavement, impressive by itself, but more so considering the competition, which included some of the best tire models in the world. Its only less than top tier showuing was lateral grip on wet surfaces.
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