Pirelli PZero Nero M+S PINNA

[oswift]

I've currently got Pirelli PZero Nero M+S tires on my Speed6, which I thought were a really great value. I was browsing tirerack and saw that there is a tire with almost the same name but with "PINNA" in the name. Tirerack didn't have the full story on this... has anyone heard of the PINNA? Is it the same tire with a new name or is it a different/improved design? The Pirelli site was not helpful either.

[mariusvt]

From the tirerack description of the tire.

"Pirelli also uses an alternate "Pinna" nicknamed tread design that features additional siping to enhance snow traction for most Original Equipment applications."

After looking around a little, it seems these Pinna tires are slightly different than the regular PZero Nero M+S that you can pickup, they appear to be what they sell directly to mazda/ford/etc

[Awong124]

Oh, so the Pinna has the Mazda P-Zero Nero tread pattern. I was wondering about them too, and tirerack doesn't have a picture.

[SimBoO]

I've just bought a set of four "PINNA's" from Tirerack.com. I'll have them today or tomorrow.

The main reason I went with those ones is the treadwear. I hated my stock bridgestone Potenza RE050A with a treadwear of 140 (on a scale up to 800 I believe, lower = stickier = wear faster). I don't do drag, I don't race, I don't want "sticky" tires because they wear too fast (25k kms, had to change them).

PINNA's have treadwear of 400 and are "all-season" which is pretty nice here in Canada when it's time to change your summer tires for winters and you get caught in an early snowfall. Potenza's don't do well in snow as you can imagine...

I can post pix of the special PINNA tread if you want to compare with yours...

I drive a MSP6 2006 and bought the same size as my original summers (215/45R18)

Ciao ciao!

[SimBoO]

Ok I got them, here they are. Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S "PINNA" for MSP6 with the special tread they are talking about on tirerack.com

There is no indication about the "PINNA" anywhere...

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[LapisBlueM6S]

do stock mazda6 gt's with 18's come with p zero neros or "pinnas"???

[SimBoO]

do stock mazda6 gt's with 18's come with p zero neros or "pinnas"???[/b]

PINNA is a PZERO Nero M+S tire. There is the ROSSO and the GALLO in the same tire I believe. Same thing for Bridgestones Potenzas, there are several type of Potenzas... RE050A, RE960 etc...

I don't know for Mazda6 GT's but for MazdaSpeed6 they should be Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires, not Pirellis.

[Awong124]

do stock mazda6 gt's with 18's come with p zero neros or "pinnas"???[/b]

They come with P-Zero Nero M&S but with the tread pattern shown in those pics. I'm not exactly sure what the PINNA actually refers to, whether it refers to that tread pattern or something else. If you bought the regular P-Zero Nero M&S in 215/45ZR18 (Mazda6 OEM size) they will still come with that particular tread pattern. The Mazda 6 GT came with the P-Zero Nero M&S with that tread pattern long before the PINNA was introduced.

[MazdaRacer83]

This is the Tread of a Pirelli PZero Nero M+S (NON-PINNA) the design looks very similar aside from the extra opposite direction lines for better snow traction. That IS the difference of the two different treads aka PINNA or NON-PINNA

[KevinK2]

I thought ^ is the oem 18" mazda6 tire, nero M&S?? Lots of sizes available.

From Tirerack:

The nero (pinna) has the same tread pattern as nero (all season), both have limited sizes, both are M&S rated.

The pinna has much more sipes on the inner 1/2 of tread width, vs the M&S, for much better snow/ice performance.

The pinna will be rolled into the nero (all season) line. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?ti...Nero+All+Season

You can compare performance by looking at the M&S vs the All Season versions.

What's nice about nero's is they are not directional, and can be cross-X rotated to eliminate feathering wear related noise.