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MS62.3Tbo · 01-01-2008, 01:15 PM

Being that the ms6 is awd staggerd wheels are not recomended. But I have been talking to some of my audi buds and the have awd quatros and run staggerd wheels. What do you guy's thing on the issue. What could be hurt?

Mcfly013 · 01-01-2008, 01:30 PM

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Being that the ms6 is awd staggerd wheels are not recomended. But I have been talking to some of my audi buds and the have awd quatros and run staggerd wheels. What do you guy's thing on the issue. What could be hurt?[/b]

Hurt? That's a good question...I know there's TCS issues on some cars when
you stagger the wheels....I just don't think there's a valid application for staggered
wheels on an MS6, other than appearance. There wouldn't be much need for more
rubber in back of this car as it's not a primarily RWD car. I really want to go
wider all around, and keep 'em inline for bad weather=better traction. It's an
interesting idea though...

MS62.3Tbo · 01-01-2008, 01:34 PM

I turn the DSC off as soon as I turn the car on, so traction control is not an issue for me. I was mor worried about the rear being as weak as it is would the extra trac in the rear cause problems.

Mcfly013 · 01-01-2008, 02:44 PM

I don't think it would. This car can't really overpower the rear tires unless you
really try, the rear sticks like glue....I don't think if you add more traction you'd
have a problem. Are you trying to resolve a traction issue with the rear end, or just
inquiring to potentially prevent one?

On a hard straight launch, this car doesn't spin tires on me. I jump forward
with a little squeak of a chirp. I don't race my car, though. People are strapping
the rear to help with rear diff issues. I'm wondering how much extra traction you'd
get with say a 3/4 inch wider tire that might effect the rear diff...considering it's
hard enough to spin the rears on stockers. As far as cornering goes, if the rear
didn't break free as easy, I'd think it's better for the rear, because torque is applied
at a constant pressure, rather than slip..then grab jolt it may receive...Just being
hypothetical here...I wouldn't say there's a terrible additional risk to the drive train.

MS62.3Tbo · 01-01-2008, 05:32 PM

ok well i broke a cv shaft on stockers but i was at the track pushing it harder than i should of. I really dont thuink it will hurt it, just wanted some extr input. thanks

pray4mojo · 01-01-2008, 05:33 PM

One of my friends with an WRX ran wider wheels in the front for more grip when turning. The difference wasnt that big though.

aviator79 · 01-01-2008, 05:53 PM

How wide were you planning on going? I dont see the need for staggerd wheels and personally think it is a bad idea on awd. I do think there is a need for`wider wheels as I now have 8.5's. I have a post about it further down on here.
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-69- · 01-01-2008, 06:57 PM

you can get a staggered lip appearance with same offset and size tires. just view mine..

6gt · 01-01-2008, 09:31 PM

You can staggerd as long as all 4 wheel weight the same. I know some 3SI community like to run staggerd like 18 by 8.5 235/45/ and 18 by 9.5 275/40. I think they run like 50 psi in the front and 30 PSI in the rear to try and make the wheel balance out.

Elicious · 01-03-2008, 03:04 PM

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I turn the DSC off as soon as I turn the car on, so traction control is not an issue for me. I was mor worried about the rear being as weak as it is would the extra trac in the rear cause problems.[/b]

I disable the airbags as soon as I get in mine.

01-01-2008, 02:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mcfly013 Track Racer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Space Coast, Florida Posts: 677 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't think it would. This car can't really overpower the rear tires unless you really try, the rear sticks like glue....I don't think if you add more traction you'd have a problem. Are you trying to resolve a traction issue with the rear end, or just inquiring to potentially prevent one? On a hard straight launch, this car doesn't spin tires on me. I jump forward with a little squeak of a chirp. I don't race my car, though. People are strapping the rear to help with rear diff issues. I'm wondering how much extra traction you'd get with say a 3/4 inch wider tire that might effect the rear diff...considering it's hard enough to spin the rears on stockers. As far as cornering goes, if the rear didn't break free as easy, I'd think it's better for the rear, because torque is applied at a constant pressure, rather than slip..then grab jolt it may receive...Just being hypothetical here...I wouldn't say there's a terrible additional risk to the drive train. __________________ 2007 Speed6 Sport-Titanium Gray Metallic1)Post your Thread 2)Put in first sentence "I've searched Everywhere" 3)Wait for someone to show you 7 previous identical threads 4)Pat yourself on the back for making someone else Search </span> </span>

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pray4mojo Rally Racer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Socal Posts: 1,728 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	One of my friends with an WRX ran wider wheels in the front for more grip when turning. The difference wasnt that big though. __________________ 2006 Onyx Black MTX 6i its got some rims and some blacked out stuff..

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aviator79 Mazda Guru Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Derby CT Posts: 3,726 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	How wide were you planning on going? I dont see the need for staggerd wheels and personally think it is a bad idea on awd. I do think there is a need for`wider wheels as I now have 8.5's. I have a post about it further down on here. Edit: HERE __________________ RENT FENDER ROLLER</span> CPE Standback - CPE catted DP to dual muffler CS mounts - CPE FMIC w/ OEM air dam & HKS BOV - mrlilguy CDFP - D N <span style="color:#4b0082">P - CPE CAI - speedie6 TIP - SU MM - TWM SS - TT Front MM - TT & CPE Rear Diffmounts - BC Coilovers - Brembo Front/StopTech & EBC Redstuff rear - F2 Baffle <strike>BS</strike> - <strike>VTCS & EGR</strike> - - 8.5x18et45 GM 57F's w/ 245/40 M3s / 18x8.5et45 Advan RZ GM w/ 245/40 Re01Rs - Passport 8500 X50 + LI Quad Laser Jammer - X50 mute button, Sub volume, LI swith & Dashawk custom mounted in steering column - EURO Tails - Rola Roof Rack - Prosport Boost gauge-Vent mount - TSX projector Retrofit - 55w projectors in fog retrofit - Carputer - CRX antenna w/ sat antenna mounted in front - Audison Dynaudio & Alumapro - Amsoil/Schafer Supreme

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-69- Track Racer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chalfont, Pa Posts: 582 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	you can get a staggered lip appearance with same offset and size tires. just view mine.. __________________ <div align="center"> Ordered - Cp-e Fmic, Cp-e Pnp Tuner, Cp-e Engine Mount (Coming Soon - Turbo Upgrade, Fuel Pump) Work Completed - Custom Tribal Crystalized Flames Paintjob, 18" Motegi Staggered Lip Rims all with 40mm offset & 225x40x18 Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Pole Position with UNI-T , Custom Front Bumper Inserts ( Lower Grill, Foglights) , Tmic Cover, CAI, Fuse Box Cover (Crystalized) Painted To Match Flames On Car,Interior Trim Pieces Painted To Match Flames(Crystalized), Blacked Out Emblems,Custom Devil Mazda Rear Logo, Cpe 3" highflow catted downpipe - mazdaspeed cai - greddy rs bov vta - apexi turbo timer - vei systems boost gauge - custom exhaust - twm short throw shifter and bushings - jl 1000x1 - jl 450x4 - 2) jl 10w7's - optima red top battery - tinted tailights, side marker lights, rear reflectors - streetglow multi color led undercar kit - steetglow multi color wheel well kit,Tanabe 210 NF Lowering SpringsFastest Top Speed Reached 160mph(yes i know there is a govern but it went to 160mph b4 i let off gas, Reflash Maybe?) My Myspace Page Custom Car Shops Site Custom Choppers Website

01-01-2008, 09:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
6gt Track Racer Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 802 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	You can staggerd as long as all 4 wheel weight the same. I know some 3SI community like to run staggerd like 18 by 8.5 235/45/ and 18 by 9.5 275/40. I think they run like 50 psi in the front and 30 PSI in the rear to try and make the wheel balance out. __________________ Need a v6 block? Or set of heads? Would be a great idea for those who want to go FI and have a block/Heads handy or sent to be built with no down time. PM if interested!

01-01-2008, 01:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
MS62.3Tbo Learners License Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Being that the ms6 is awd staggerd wheels are not recomended. But I have been talking to some of my audi buds and the have awd quatros and run staggerd wheels. What do you guy's thing on the issue. What could be hurt?

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01-01-2008, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
MS62.3Tbo Learners License Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	I turn the DSC off as soon as I turn the car on, so traction control is not an issue for me. I was mor worried about the rear being as weak as it is would the extra trac in the rear cause problems.

01-01-2008, 05:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
MS62.3Tbo Learners License Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well i broke a cv shaft on stockers but i was at the track pushing it harder than i should of. I really dont thuink it will hurt it, just wanted some extr input. thanks