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chromeguru · 06-08-2004, 10:24 AM

I am looking to put a staggered setup on my 6. 18 x 8 up front and 18 x 9 in the rear. Local dealer says it will be no problem. Wondering if anyone has done this and seem any negative effects?

Thanks...

GreenNuggs · 06-08-2004, 10:30 AM

18x9? You could barely fit 18x8s back there. No way is this going to clear everything.

And why wider on the rear? You do realize this is no a BMW right?

chromeguru · 06-08-2004, 10:32 AM

hehe, I know its not a beemer, but a guy can dream right ;-) I'm calling my car an M6, LOL.

the rims are a 43 mm offset, and the guy was very confident they would fit, but might have to roll the rear fender which is n/p.

I just love that fat rear tire look :-)

DRAGONS6 · 06-08-2004, 11:31 AM

You'll have to roll your fenders and then buy a completely different car to put those rims on. :D There is no way the rears will fit w/o completely damaging your car.

99YammieR1 · 06-08-2004, 11:38 AM

:laugh get a RWD bimmer

critical6 · 06-08-2004, 11:49 AM

I never understood FWD cars getting a staggard setup... i guess style over purpose. but you would have to get a custom 3 piece wheel that had a crazy offset for that to work... but if the place says so, try it. itll be all on them if it doesnt work...

chromeguru · 06-08-2004, 11:55 AM

I wish I had the money for a nice M5 or even an M3, but I dont :-) Given the wheels are only an inch wider, it really isnt that big of a difference. Most setups are an 18 x 8 front and an 18 x 10 rear.

ANyway, just looking to get some feedback...

Kid Cromer · 06-08-2004, 01:46 PM

Though it has not been positively documented, I am rather confident an 18x9 wont work. An inch may seem a small difference, but consider this: 18x7.5 with +42 offset and 225/40 series rubs if you don't have your fenders rolled, but 18x7.5 with +52 offset and 225/40 series does not. That is only a difference of 10 mm (a.k.a. 1 cm, a.k.a. 0.4 inches). In the world of wheel geometries and fitments, even 0.4 inches can make all the difference in the world. With a 9" wide wheel, offset is a relatively moot issue, because regardless you will hit the inside (swing arm of the suspension) or the outside (fender of the wheel well). Thereby, the only way for it work would be to completely destroy the outside fender wells (i.e. the rear side panels), start from scratch, and have an entirely new "wide-body" kit designed for the vehicle.

chromeguru · 06-08-2004, 04:10 PM

awesome, looks like I need to mock up a wide body design :-) Thanks for the input Kid, I will get the guys at the wheel shop and do some measuring before I buy. I downloaded the spec image on this FAQ and will take it with me.

I'll let the group know if anything works out, thanks for all the great feedback!

Stretch · 06-08-2004, 05:25 PM

A staggered setup is a great idea.

But putting wider wheels/tires in the back is retarded. Have a problem with oversteer, are you? Or do you enter drifting competitions in reverse?

Run 225/45/17, 17x8's up front and 215/45/17, 17x7.5's rear. That'd be a good setup. I'd be running a staggered setup if Falken or Kumho made the appropriate sizes for a 16x8. Nonetheless, I get plenty of rotation without the staggered setup.

06-08-2004, 10:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
chromeguru Drivers License Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Staggered Wheel Setup I am looking to put a staggered setup on my 6. 18 x 8 up front and 18 x 9 in the rear. Local dealer says it will be no problem. Wondering if anyone has done this and seem any negative effects? Thanks...

06-08-2004, 10:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
GreenNuggs Mazda Guru Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dracut, MA Posts: 3,392 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Replying to Topic 'Staggered Wheel Setup' 18x9? You could barely fit 18x8s back there. No way is this going to clear everything. And why wider on the rear? You do realize this is no a BMW right? __________________ 2003 Mazda 6s - MTX, 1SE, Moonroof, SAB - Nuggs' 6 Draxas Exhaust, Injen Intake, Eibach Springs, CP-E MAF customizer, Rota Torque 17x8, 235/40ZR17 94Y, 14.933@94.9 "Thats what the internet is for! Slandering others anonymously!"

06-08-2004, 10:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
chromeguru Drivers License Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup hehe, I know its not a beemer, but a guy can dream right ;-) I'm calling my car an M6, LOL. the rims are a 43 mm offset, and the guy was very confident they would fit, but might have to roll the rear fender which is n/p. I just love that fat rear tire look :-)

06-08-2004, 11:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
DRAGONS6 Rally Racer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 1,878 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup You'll have to roll your fenders and then buy a completely different car to put those rims on. :D There is no way the rears will fit w/o completely damaging your car. __________________ 64 mods (so far) Too much money spent http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?&amp...E=12&CID=17 6 of the month on eastcoast6.com March 2005 NH01 http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/859418 (better pics) and check out myspace http://www.myspace.com/21633211

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critical6 Rally Racer Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 719 Posts: 1,172 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup I never understood FWD cars getting a staggard setup... i guess style over purpose. but you would have to get a custom 3 piece wheel that had a crazy offset for that to work... but if the place says so, try it. itll be all on them if it doesnt work... __________________ CARDOMAIN // MYSPACE

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chromeguru Drivers License Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup I wish I had the money for a nice M5 or even an M3, but I dont :-) Given the wheels are only an inch wider, it really isnt that big of a difference. Most setups are an 18 x 8 front and an 18 x 10 rear. ANyway, just looking to get some feedback...

06-08-2004, 01:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kid Cromer Track Racer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Virginia Posts: 440 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Replying to Topic 'Staggered Wheel Setup' Though it has not been positively documented, I am rather confident an 18x9 wont work. An inch may seem a small difference, but consider this: 18x7.5 with +42 offset and 225/40 series rubs if you don't have your fenders rolled, but 18x7.5 with +52 offset and 225/40 series does not. That is only a difference of 10 mm (a.k.a. 1 cm, a.k.a. 0.4 inches). In the world of wheel geometries and fitments, even 0.4 inches can make all the difference in the world. With a 9" wide wheel, offset is a relatively moot issue, because regardless you will hit the inside (swing arm of the suspension) or the outside (fender of the wheel well). Thereby, the only way for it work would be to completely destroy the outside fender wells (i.e. the rear side panels), start from scratch, and have an entirely new "wide-body" kit designed for the vehicle. __________________ 2003 Glacier Silver 6i ATX, OEM Sport Grille (Blacked-Out), Eibach Pro-Kit, 18" ALT X-Factors (Carbon Black), Bridgestone Potenza RE050A XL 215/45/18 Tires, StopTech Slotted Front & Rear Rotors, Carbotech Bobcat Brake Pads, Anzo Clear Side Markers (Signal Marker Mod), Valiant Style Eyelids (RPM), AuxMod, 12" Kicker Subwoofer, Profile 600W Amp -- On Ice: 17" OEM Wheels & Tires --

06-08-2004, 04:10 PM	#9 (permalink)
chromeguru Drivers License Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup awesome, looks like I need to mock up a wide body design :-) Thanks for the input Kid, I will get the guys at the wheel shop and do some measuring before I buy. I downloaded the spec image on this FAQ and will take it with me. I'll let the group know if anything works out, thanks for all the great feedback!

06-08-2004, 05:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
Stretch Mazda Guru Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 5,758 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: Staggered Wheel Setup A staggered setup is a great idea. But putting wider wheels/tires in the back is retarded. Have a problem with oversteer, are you? Or do you enter drifting competitions in reverse? Run 225/45/17, 17x8's up front and 215/45/17, 17x7.5's rear. That'd be a good setup. I'd be running a staggered setup if Falken or Kumho made the appropriate sizes for a 16x8. Nonetheless, I get plenty of rotation without the staggered setup. __________________ Understand suspensions? Please take the required measurements for my suspension calculator and share them on this site.