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WhoDiddy · 09-15-2003, 01:34 PM

i curently have 18x7.5" chrome rims that are heavy as shit, i wanna have a backup of rims n tires for street setup. i was thinkin about sum either hyper black, or gunmetal rims. i see that wheel max has a few for $600-$640 shipped. i'll only get 17x7" or 17x7.5". don't wanna spend too much onl new rims that i'll have just for street set up.

Exel Gol6 $599

crossbow · 09-15-2003, 01:51 PM

WhoDiddy,

Have you thought about saving some money up and getting forged wheels?

Could drop a serious amount of weight that way. (Even more then stock)

BadBadNeil · 09-15-2003, 02:46 PM

Yeah if your lookin for racing wheels i'd save up a little and look at brands like Kinesis, Roja, Volk, Centerline, Velox, Adven, etc. I'd say try to find something under 16lbs for 17's, preferably around 14-15lbs or so and forged if possible.

pisadong · 09-15-2003, 05:12 PM

One of the lightest reasonably priced forged wheels in the Centerline Impulse. In a 17x7 it weighs in around 12.5lbs! I believe they are around $250/ea. Not cheap but super light and not bad looking. Pair those with some Toyo T1-S or Pirelli P-Zero Neros (both around 21-22 lbs) and you have a wheel/tire combo that only weighs a couple more pounds than the stock rims to do alone. Here a link to a pic:http://www.centerlinewheels.com/whee..._id=4&sw_id=31

BadBadNeil · 09-15-2003, 08:20 PM

centerlines are a good deal and cheap compared to most forged wheels out there. I know a girl that has some and loves em.

Stretch · 09-15-2003, 08:40 PM

If you're looking only for go and not show, you might consider getting into even smaller 16" rims. There are many cheap, lightweight 16" wheels.

Rota Slipstreams are $500 SHIPPED and only 13.5 lbs. They probably wouldn't look special, but they sure would be fast on the track.

To get show and go, I think you're going to have to go with forged wheels, which are expensive.

You'll have to choose two of the three: Looks, lightweight, or cheap.

BadBadNeil · 09-15-2003, 09:39 PM

actually im running rota subzero's 16" with toyo T1-S's and they are light and excellent traction. The wheels are 14.5lbs and the tires are ~19lbs.

They arent forged but they have a different casting method to make them stronger and lighter. They might not have enough "bling" for your taste but they look good to me.

WhoDiddy · 09-16-2003, 03:22 PM

wut's the deal with Forged rims? seen numerous recommendations about em. i wanna have a street setup that doesn't cost a shitload tho:( i wanna save up $$$ for TURBO. i'll be keeping my Chrome Rims.

if anyone is going to NOPI... click the link below.
http://mazda6club.com/forums/read.php?TID=8671

BadBadNeil · 09-16-2003, 04:00 PM

forged is a higher pressure method and higher quality method of creating wheels as opposed to your typical aluminum casting. Therefore you can have much stronger wheels and also make thinnner spokes which in turn reduces weight. SO you have stronger lighter wheels in the end. Then the stronger lighter wheels require less braking power than your bigger heavier wheels.

Dont we all want turbo :)

pisadong · 09-16-2003, 04:05 PM

Everything else being equal, a forged wheels can be lighter than a comparably strong cast wheel. You mentioned that you wanted a lighter wheel to enhance the performance of your car, so that's why I and others recommended a forged wheel. A cast wheel can be made just as light as a forged wheel but it won't be close to as strong. If you only use them on a smooth racetrack, it's probably not going to be a problem. For a daily driver, the usual road hazards such as big potholes and train tracks can spell a quick death of overly lightweight cast wheels. A good budget solution would be 16" lightweight cast wheels such as Rota's or Konig Heliums as others have also mentioned.

Just so you know, saving 1 lb of rotational weight is equal to saving 4 lbs of static weight. So if your bling bling chrome wheels are 30+ lbs, going to a 15 lb wheel would provide gains in acceleration equal to dropping 240 lbs from the car (15x4=60 60x4=240). That would be good for about 2 to 3 tenths in the quarter.

09-15-2003, 01:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
WhoDiddy Rally Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	New Rims For Racing Setup. i curently have 18x7.5" chrome rims that are heavy as shit, i wanna have a backup of rims n tires for street setup. i was thinkin about sum either hyper black, or gunmetal rims. i see that wheel max has a few for $600-$640 shipped. i'll only get 17x7" or 17x7.5". don't wanna spend too much onl new rims that i'll have just for street set up. Exel Gol6 $599

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crossbow Mazda Guru Join Date: May 2003 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Posts: 11,740 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. WhoDiddy, Have you thought about saving some money up and getting forged wheels? Could drop a serious amount of weight that way. (Even more then stock)

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BadBadNeil Track Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. Yeah if your lookin for racing wheels i'd save up a little and look at brands like Kinesis, Roja, Volk, Centerline, Velox, Adven, etc. I'd say try to find something under 16lbs for 17's, preferably around 14-15lbs or so and forged if possible.

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pisadong Track Racer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Saugus, CA Posts: 725 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Replying to Topic 'New Rims For Racing Setup.' One of the lightest reasonably priced forged wheels in the Centerline Impulse. In a 17x7 it weighs in around 12.5lbs! I believe they are around $250/ea. Not cheap but super light and not bad looking. Pair those with some Toyo T1-S or Pirelli P-Zero Neros (both around 21-22 lbs) and you have a wheel/tire combo that only weighs a couple more pounds than the stock rims to do alone. Here a link to a pic:http://www.centerlinewheels.com/whee..._id=4&sw_id=31

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BadBadNeil Track Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. centerlines are a good deal and cheap compared to most forged wheels out there. I know a girl that has some and loves em.

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Stretch Mazda Guru Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Silver Spring, MD Posts: 5,758 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. If you're looking only for go and not show, you might consider getting into even smaller 16" rims. There are many cheap, lightweight 16" wheels. Rota Slipstreams are $500 SHIPPED and only 13.5 lbs. They probably wouldn't look special, but they sure would be fast on the track. To get show and go, I think you're going to have to go with forged wheels, which are expensive. You'll have to choose two of the three: Looks, lightweight, or cheap. __________________ Understand suspensions? Please take the required measurements for my suspension calculator and share them on this site.

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BadBadNeil Track Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. actually im running rota subzero's 16" with toyo T1-S's and they are light and excellent traction. The wheels are 14.5lbs and the tires are ~19lbs. They arent forged but they have a different casting method to make them stronger and lighter. They might not have enough "bling" for your taste but they look good to me.

09-16-2003, 03:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
WhoDiddy Rally Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,667 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. wut's the deal with Forged rims? seen numerous recommendations about em. i wanna have a street setup that doesn't cost a shitload tho:( i wanna save up $$$ for TURBO. i'll be keeping my Chrome Rims. if anyone is going to NOPI... click the link below. http://mazda6club.com/forums/read.php?TID=8671

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BadBadNeil Track Racer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. forged is a higher pressure method and higher quality method of creating wheels as opposed to your typical aluminum casting. Therefore you can have much stronger wheels and also make thinnner spokes which in turn reduces weight. SO you have stronger lighter wheels in the end. Then the stronger lighter wheels require less braking power than your bigger heavier wheels. Dont we all want turbo :)

09-16-2003, 04:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
pisadong Track Racer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Saugus, CA Posts: 725 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Reading Topic: New Rims For Racing Setup. Everything else being equal, a forged wheels can be lighter than a comparably strong cast wheel. You mentioned that you wanted a lighter wheel to enhance the performance of your car, so that's why I and others recommended a forged wheel. A cast wheel can be made just as light as a forged wheel but it won't be close to as strong. If you only use them on a smooth racetrack, it's probably not going to be a problem. For a daily driver, the usual road hazards such as big potholes and train tracks can spell a quick death of overly lightweight cast wheels. A good budget solution would be 16" lightweight cast wheels such as Rota's or Konig Heliums as others have also mentioned. Just so you know, saving 1 lb of rotational weight is equal to saving 4 lbs of static weight. So if your bling bling chrome wheels are 30+ lbs, going to a 15 lb wheel would provide gains in acceleration equal to dropping 240 lbs from the car (15x4=60 60x4=240). That would be good for about 2 to 3 tenths in the quarter.