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Poohster · 12-22-2012, 02:39 PM

Well, I finally found out why my MS6 had a KR issue and couldn't tune it out. I developed a rattle sound at moderate load around 2500-3300 rpm. scared I would never rev more after I heard the sound. Sounded like the timing chain hitting the valve cover. Bite the bullet to replace the VVT, timing chain and tensionors. I brought the car to CP-e to re-flash my ECU back to stock for an AP and get the work done.Work done except for ECU (still working that). Mechanic drove the car and said what the hell is that noise. After few weeks of diagnostics, removing the oil pan, removing the cylinder head andstressing the engine to find where the rattling is coming from, Sander and Darren determined cylinder 3 was toast. The car started sounding worse each time they ran it. exhaust started running lean.

Well, they scoped the cylinder found the valve inside. Probably the valve was failing (stuck slightly open), hitting the piston and after numerous runs failed and fell in during one of the diagnostics.

So, CP-e is working with me to build a Stage 2 engine. Going with a short block and stage 2 pistons. I want greater reliability. The head is being serviced, moving over everything my my old engine and dressing up the VC and timing cover with black crinkle. May choose to get a new clutch depending on wear. Getting an AP.

This holiday season is lightening my wallet but bringing a big smile to my face in the new year.

micneill · 12-23-2012, 12:10 PM

Good luck keep us posted.

oh_yeams6 · 12-23-2012, 02:48 PM

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssss

6erforlife · 12-23-2012, 04:10 PM

Damn I'm jealous! Time to go BT

IHeartGroceries · 12-24-2012, 10:50 AM

Ugh...sounds exactly like the symptoms my car is exhibiting.
The difference here being I refuse to drop that kind of money on this POS.

Congrats though. Your car ought to be ready to make some powah after your engine upgrades.

MWSpeed6 · 12-25-2012, 11:40 AM

Nice... Good luck and keep us posted!

bevobrown · 12-25-2012, 11:55 AM

Wow......what is this going to wind up costing?

Poohster · 12-25-2012, 03:21 PM

The engine stage 2 short block is $6200 orig. I got a discount during the 12 days of X-Mas. I owe CP-e on directed labor for the VVT/timing chain work. I don't know yet but maybe around $10K - $12K. Give or take on ancillary stuff like oil, coolant, refrigerant, gaskets, bolts, clutch and labor. CP-e is working with me trying to keep costs down. Actually, they talked me out of an evolution turbo when it was $999. Was going to buy the LRT manifold but needed to sell my Steedspeed mani.

oh_yeams6 · 12-26-2012, 01:52 PM

Holy shiiiiiiiiiiii

Poohster · 12-26-2012, 02:43 PM

I'm hoping less.

12-22-2012, 02:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
Poohster Rally Racer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,421 Thanks: 118 Thanked 74 Times in 50 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 13 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Time for a CP-e Stage 2 engine Well, I finally found out why my MS6 had a KR issue and couldn't tune it out. I developed a rattle sound at moderate load around 2500-3300 rpm. scared I would never rev more after I heard the sound. Sounded like the timing chain hitting the valve cover. Bite the bullet to replace the VVT, timing chain and tensionors. I brought the car to CP-e to re-flash my ECU back to stock for an AP and get the work done.Work done except for ECU (still working that). Mechanic drove the car and said what the hell is that noise. After few weeks of diagnostics, removing the oil pan, removing the cylinder head andstressing the engine to find where the rattling is coming from, Sander and Darren determined cylinder 3 was toast. The car started sounding worse each time they ran it. exhaust started running lean. Well, they scoped the cylinder found the valve inside. Probably the valve was failing (stuck slightly open), hitting the piston and after numerous runs failed and fell in during one of the diagnostics. So, CP-e is working with me to build a Stage 2 engine. Going with a short block and stage 2 pistons. I want greater reliability. The head is being serviced, moving over everything my my old engine and dressing up the VC and timing cover with black crinkle. May choose to get a new clutch depending on wear. Getting an AP. This holiday season is lightening my wallet but bringing a big smile to my face in the new year. Attached Thumbnails __________________ 06 MS6, Blk Mica, MS wheels 18x7.5, Yoko ENvigor P225/45-18, Magnaflow CB, SU MM, Autometer Boost gauge, CS Strut bar, Bilstein shocks, Redline Tuning QuickLIFT, MPI Upgraded K04, TT Diff Frt mount & R. Bushings, SP slotted rotors, Hawk rear pads, Whiteline RSB, Steedspeed mani, JBR TIG. Cobb AP, DCR VVT RPM: Sport Springs, Shark Fin, LED side markers HKS: BOV CP-e: CDFP, TIP, Xcel CAI, Catted DP, BOV Flange, gauge pod, TMIC, Safeseals, Stage 2 block, Stage 1 clutch Last edited by Poohster; 12-25-2012 at 03:47 PM. Reason: mis-spelling

12-23-2012, 12:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
micneill Registered User Join Date: May 2010 Location: ontario Posts: 268 Thanks: 104 Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts Groans: 3 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 5 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Good luck keep us posted. __________________ 2006-Speed 6-GT-Black Mica #00921 Sure rmm\|Sure jugg\|Sure dread\|Sure Aero\|Sure sidewinder\|Sure anchors\|su interior brace\|Cobb ap\|itv-22(.25)\|Sure shortcut\|Sure countershift\|Shark fin\|Corksport LED kit\|JBR EGR delete\|Plast dip rear+Front emblem\| Prosport boost gauge Blockhead pod\|Paper clip clutch bypass\|Autotech hpfp\|SM occ\|ptp injector seals and studs\|Sure I.M. + T.B. tig\|vht side marker +rear reflector\|SPC ball joints\|corksport tmic Next:Sure S6 and test pipe then brakes then suspension

12-23-2012, 02:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
oh_yeams6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 284 Thanked 612 Times in 426 Posts Groans: 6 Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s) Quoted: 128 Post(s) iTrader: 13 reviews	Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssss __________________ CLEAN YOUR VALVES

12-23-2012, 04:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
6erforlife Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Northern Jersey Posts: 640 Thanks: 123 Thanked 127 Times in 102 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 45 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Damn I'm jealous! Time to go BT __________________ Liquid Platinum 07 Speed 6 #10177 JBR 80duro RMM, Sure Juggernaut, Sure Dreadnaught Cobb AP, HTP3.5" Intake, Streetunit TMIC, M2 DP, TurboSmart BOV, Grimmspeed EBCS, AT Internals, GP Werks BSD & Baffle, Denso ITV22, TWM Stage 2, Dashhawk, JBR OCC, JBR TB TIG, SURE IM TIG, VTCS Delete, Clean Valves! LED tail lights, 20% tint, EVO X rims and VG Sharkfin Soon to be installed: Ford Transit Oil Filter Conversion

12-25-2012, 11:40 AM	#6 (permalink)
MWSpeed6 Rally Racer Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,498 Thanks: 542 Thanked 650 Times in 473 Posts Groans: 1 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 10 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 67 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Nice... Good luck and keep us posted! __________________ 2007 mazdaspeed6 GT \| titanium gray COBB AP, intake, TIP \| Corksport FMIC \| GrimmSpeed 3-port EBCS \| KMD HPFP \| CP-E inj seals \| ATP 3" cat'ed DP \| Magnaflow 2.5" CBE \| SM OCC w/ check valve \| EGR + VTCS delete \| TB coolant bypass \| JBR IM and TB gaskets \| ITV22s \| GP-WERKS BSD + oil pan baffle \| TT rear diff mount + bushings, front engine mount \| BC coilovers \| SPC camber adj ball joints \| JBR SSP, weighted shift knob.

12-24-2012, 10:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
IHeartGroceries Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 4,983 Thanks: 1,167 Thanked 1,101 Times in 682 Posts Groans: 3 Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 65 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Ugh...sounds exactly like the symptoms my car is exhibiting. The difference here being I refuse to drop that kind of money on this POS. Congrats though. Your car ought to be ready to make some powah after your engine upgrades.

12-25-2012, 11:55 AM	#7 (permalink)
bevobrown Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 50 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Groans: 1 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 1 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Wow......what is this going to wind up costing? __________________ 2003 6S ATX - Onyx Black - Black Leather - Sport+Comfort+Premium Packages - Moonroof AWR 70 Duro Mount Set - FluidAMPR - TB Coolant Bypass - EGR Mod - Airbox Mod w/K&N Filter - Inline PCV Royal Purple MAXATF in AT and PS System Goodyear Eagle GT 215/50R17 all around

12-25-2012, 03:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
Poohster Rally Racer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,421 Thanks: 118 Thanked 74 Times in 50 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 13 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	The engine stage 2 short block is $6200 orig. I got a discount during the 12 days of X-Mas. I owe CP-e on directed labor for the VVT/timing chain work. I don't know yet but maybe around $10K - $12K. Give or take on ancillary stuff like oil, coolant, refrigerant, gaskets, bolts, clutch and labor. CP-e is working with me trying to keep costs down. Actually, they talked me out of an evolution turbo when it was $999. Was going to buy the LRT manifold but needed to sell my Steedspeed mani. __________________ 06 MS6, Blk Mica, MS wheels 18x7.5, Yoko ENvigor P225/45-18, Magnaflow CB, SU MM, Autometer Boost gauge, CS Strut bar, Bilstein shocks, Redline Tuning QuickLIFT, MPI Upgraded K04, TT Diff Frt mount & R. Bushings, SP slotted rotors, Hawk rear pads, Whiteline RSB, Steedspeed mani, JBR TIG. Cobb AP, DCR VVT RPM: Sport Springs, Shark Fin, LED side markers HKS: BOV CP-e: CDFP, TIP, Xcel CAI, Catted DP, BOV Flange, gauge pod, TMIC, Safeseals, Stage 2 block, Stage 1 clutch

12-26-2012, 01:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
oh_yeams6 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 284 Thanked 612 Times in 426 Posts Groans: 6 Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s) Quoted: 128 Post(s) iTrader: 13 reviews	Holy shiiiiiiiiiiii __________________ CLEAN YOUR VALVES

12-26-2012, 02:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Poohster Rally Racer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MD Posts: 1,421 Thanks: 118 Thanked 74 Times in 50 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 13 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm hoping less. __________________ 06 MS6, Blk Mica, MS wheels 18x7.5, Yoko ENvigor P225/45-18, Magnaflow CB, SU MM, Autometer Boost gauge, CS Strut bar, Bilstein shocks, Redline Tuning QuickLIFT, MPI Upgraded K04, TT Diff Frt mount & R. Bushings, SP slotted rotors, Hawk rear pads, Whiteline RSB, Steedspeed mani, JBR TIG. Cobb AP, DCR VVT RPM: Sport Springs, Shark Fin, LED side markers HKS: BOV CP-e: CDFP, TIP, Xcel CAI, Catted DP, BOV Flange, gauge pod, TMIC, Safeseals, Stage 2 block, Stage 1 clutch

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