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Old 09-13-2008, 04:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Notes on fluids & associated part information for the MS6

Please do post corrections or suggestions-
I'll integrate to this post as appropriate

This was mostly copied & pasted from dozens of posts,
or taken from the '06 MS6 owners manual
-notes gathered mostly just to make my life easier.

based on US dollars, quarts or gallons
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> Fuel Tank
'06 MS6 Manual - 15.9 us gal


> Power steering fluid
'06 MS6 Manual - ATF M-III, M-V, or equivalent (e.g. DexronŽ II)
dry fill- 1 quart

**NOTE: This is not a good area to skimp on quality. In harsh environments like autocross the power assist has been known to fail. Well worth the extra few dollars for a good synthetic ATF like Mobil1.**


> Brake/Clutch fluid
'06 MS6 Manual - SAE J1703, or FMVSS116 DOT-3
system flush- 1 liter

> Coolant
'06 MS6 Manual - 8.5 us qts (2.25 us gallons)
Type- Mazda FL22
Mazda OEM - part# 0000-77-508E-20

It seems that only mazda has coolant called "FL22"
Whatever, per their own service bulletin-
"FL22 coolant is compatible with current (Green) ethylene glycol coolant."
Bulletin No: 01-033/07
http://www.mazda6wiki.com/w/images/7...3-07-1830b.pdf



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> Engine:

5.5 - 6 qts
7 quarts with Balance Shaft removed

'06 MS6 Manual
- 5W-30
There's a strong argument being made that 5W-40 or even 10W-40
is better as the slightly thicker viscosity will not seep past the seals
in the turbo and may help prevent the smoking turbo syndrome.


Oil Filter - cartridge style

Oil Filter Part Numbers:
FL-2017B - Motorcraft/Ford OEM cartridge oil filter
L321-14-302-9U - Mazda OEM cartridge oil filter
7203 - Napa Gold cartridge oil filter (made by Wix)
57203 - Wix cartridge oil filter
L15505 Purolator Premium Plus cartridge oil filter
PL15505 Purolator Pure One cartridge oil filter
GL15505 O'Reilly's/Microgard cartridge oil filter
P7313 - Baldwin cartridge oil filter
HP-7013 - K&N cartridge oil filter (made by Champion Labs)
84203 - Carquest cartridge oil filter (made by Wix)
LF594 - Hastings cartridge oil filter
CH9641 - Fram cartridge oil filter
P960 - Champ cartridge oil filter (Champion Labs, makes oil filters for other companies)
S9641 - STP cartridge oil filter (made by Champion Labs)
M1C153 - Mobil1 cartridge oil filter

Oil Filter Wrench - 76mm/14 flutes

Crush Washer-
Mazda OEM - part# 9956-41-400


**NOTE - Short interval oil changes- fuel shear from DISI is bad mojo

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> Tranny:
'06 MS6 Manual - API Service GL-4 (SAE 75W-90)

3 qts - GL-4
2.5 us qts actual fill

-Amsoil
Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle
Gear Lube 75W-90 API GL-4 (MTG)
$12.90/qt retail

-RedLine
MT-90 (75W90 GL-4 Gear Oil)
$11.49/qt retail

-Motorcraft
Ford Manual Transaxle fluid # XT-M5-QS (75W-90 GL-4 Gear Oil)


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> PTO & Rear Diff:
'06 MS6 Manual - API Service GL-5 (SAE 80W-90)

3qts - GL-5
'06 MS6 Manual - pto - 1.3 us qts actual fill
'06 MS6 Manual - r.diff - 1.1 us qts actual fill

-Amsoil
SEVERE GEARŽ Synthetic Extreme Pressure (EP) Lubricant 75W-90 (SVG)
$13.25/qt retail
Long Life Synthetic Gear Lube SAE 75W-90 (FGR)
$11.20/qt retail
**NOTE: My amsoil rep no longer stocks Synthetic Gear Lube SAE 80W-90 (AGL), and states the SVG is substantially better. I have heard from a few folks happily running the SVG in the MS6 rear dif without adding the SlipLock additive, seems it's not needed for the MS6. I removed the AGL from this list, but if you find it locally it will be fine to use.**

-RedLine
75W-90 (75W90 GL-5 Gear Oil)
$10.95/qt retail
**NOTE: Not recommended to run RedLine 75W-90NS - doesn't contain the friction modifiers for limited-slip rear diff**



(retail pricing from maufacturer websites september 2008)


DIY Pics:

Trans:



Transfer Case/PTO:



Read Diff:



helpful hints:

the plugs are all either 23 or 24mm

the crush washers (if you are replacing) are part numbers:
Trans oil plug washer - A601-17-117
T-case oil plug washer - 9956-21-800
Diff oil plug washer - 9956-41-800


A pump of some kind is highly recommended for all three locations.
-Basic, inexpensive hand pumps can be had from almost any parts store



Post-transplant start-up options
Quote:
(whoosh @ Apr 8 2009, 05:50 AM)
install the turbo and connect all lines (oil and coolant)
unplug the coil packs / just the connectors
turn the car over for about 10-15 seconds
obviously it will not start and thats the point to get oil running through the turbo
sit a minute and do the 10-15 seconds again
connect the coil packs and start it up

don't worry about the coolant
after your car is running and you are sure there are no leaks
let it cool a bit and add coolant until it's at the required level


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I wanted to add that the crank/no start procedure from whoosh is a good idea but not the best way of going about it. Reason being is that with that procedure you are removing the spark but the engine is still injecting fuel into the combustion chamber.

A much better and easier way of doing this (and what I do on initial start up after each oil change) is to simply pull the fuel injector fuse.

Open the fuse box under the hood next to the air filter. Pull the fuel injector fuse, I believe it's labeled 'FUEL INJ'. Fuses are labeled under the fuse box cover. It should be the fuse near the corner of the fuse box by the MAF. Crank the engine till the oil light goes off, then put the fuse back in. Then crank it again and it'll start right up with instant oil pressure!
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dude...i vote for sticky.
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+1
How about coolant?
And windshield washer fluid?
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updates to the PTO/Rear Diff section, amsoil notes
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sticky.. i see this coming in very handy for alot of people.
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I need to know the brake/clutch fluid capacity. Anyone got that?
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I've not yet flushed the fluid on the MS6-

That said, I have performed complete system flush on many rides over the years, and have never used a full litre bottle to complete the job.

My standard routine, which will be done to the MS6 as well, what I've always called a Stage 1 brake upgrade, includes the following for all four corners at once:
- pads
- slotted rotors, OEM size (slotted for rain shedding, I'm in Florida)
- Stainless braided lines
- ATE SuperBlue (litre bottle, +/- $14.00 US)

I use a Motive Power Bleeder, making the fluid flush a simple, fast one person job. (1101 adapter for Mazda)

You could get by with less fluid, but I'm just cautious that way, and I like to flush a pretty good quantity of the new stuff through the system.
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QUOTE (TiGraySpeed6 @ Oct 2 2008, 06:57 PM)
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- ATE SuperBlue (litre bottle, +/- $14.00 US)[/b]
I also use ATE. Some shops also carry the ATE amber ... same stuff, but makes it easy to tell when you have flushed the lines completely. Very handy if you track your car and change brake fluid often.

For MTX oil, I also suggest NEO synthetic 75W90-HD (bakerprecision.com). A bit better that MT90 for shifting.

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The comments on Neo are very positive, the RX7 folks really seem to have been fond of it.
Thanks for posting that link. I'd never heard of Neo

Now then, I'm going to make a request here, but I wanted to say KevinK2, I'm not grieving at you!!
Rather, this is a pre-emptive post.

There are many, many more brands out there beyond the two I've listed above.

Well, look, I don't want this thread to develope into a pissing match of any kind. In that regard I've added the following text to the original post in the hopes that it will stay more as a nice simple FAQ on fluids for the MS6-

Please, please do post things that should be added in the first post, but let's not start into a TORCO RULES thing, keep it to a GL-5 will cause excessive wear to gold metals so use GL-4 where spec'd type thing. Frankly, I've added everything I can think of, so anything else will come from your suggestions. -

ok? thanks.

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Edited to include note on brand names-
Shown here for those getting the email thread updates:


A note regarding brand names-
There are many, many more available than the two reasonably popular and widely available examples I've listed above for the tranny and PTO/Rear Diff. Heck, I didn't even list examples for the engine oil or brake fluid because there are so many good choices. People have different brand loyalties, needs, desires, environments etc, and there are as many differing viewpoints as there are oil/lube brands to choose from.

I'm not even gonna bother trying to list all of them

Please feel free to start another topic to discuss your favorites, and feel free
to post here with a link to your thread.

The brands I did choose to list as examples are readily available and have been
deeply discussed over & over again.


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