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Old 07-28-2008, 08:27 AM   #181 (permalink)
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Ah, thank you... That does makes sense...

But it's metered at the MAF, right? So wouldn't there be an issue with more of that metered air passing through earlier and more consistently? I'm not too great on understanding flow properties, so bear with me. I would assume the same amount of air would be sucked through the CAI, and metered the same, but instead of having to pass through the restrictive factory inlet, it now passes more efficiently through this piece... Wouldn't that yield more air? Again, forgive my ignorance if it's an obvious thing, I'm just trying to understand.[/b]

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your sort of on the right track but not quite. remember the turbo is essentially a vaccume, it sucks just as much air as it wants. so before the TIP, the turbo had to work HARDER to suck in ~16 PSI worth of air. now that the stock TIP has been replaced by a more free flowing one, the turbo will still be sucking ~16 PSI worth of air but now it can do it more efficiently and smoothly which leads to more HP. sort of like the FMIC vs stock TMIC debate, the stock TMIC has a 4PSI pressure drop where as an AM FMIC usually around .5PSI so the turbo has to put out 3.5PSI less at the outlet even though its not actually pushing any more air.

btw havent seen you in a while buddy, hows your diff replacement going? PM me if you wanna keep this thread on topic.
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your sort of on the right track but not quite. remember the turbo is essentially a vaccume, it sucks just as much air as it wants. so before the TIP, the turbo had to work HARDER to suck in ~16 PSI worth of air. now that the stock TIP has been replaced by a more free flowing one, the turbo will still be sucking ~16 PSI worth of air but now it can do it more efficiently and smoothly which leads to more HP. sort of like the FMIC vs stock TMIC debate, the stock TMIC has a 4PSI pressure drop where as an AM FMIC usually around .5PSI so the turbo has to put out 3.5PSI less at the outlet even though its not actually pushing any more air.

btw havent seen you in a while buddy, hows your diff replacement going? PM me if you wanna keep this thread on topic.[/b]
Ok, so it's kind of like a downpipe in the sense that it let's the turbo spin easier (with less back pressure, in the DP case) but not necessarily push more air. So if anything, it shouldn't really result in more power, instead, it should just allow the spool to begin slightly earlier and with less effort. That sound right?

Yeah, I haven't been on much... Diff was replaced under warranty, no question. I have the TT brace and CP-E brace coming to stiffen it up, but my car is MIA right now... I was cut off during a sweeping left, downhill offramp and ended up skidding off the road and flying down a ditch. Damages are estimated at over $13,700 so I'm really hoping insurance doesn't total it... They haven't said anything yet. The way it landed, the car should have flipped... but didn't. These cars are tanks man, saved my sisters life as well as mine.
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"Yeah, I haven't been on much... Diff was replaced under warranty, no question. I have the TT brace and CP-E brace coming to stiffen it up, but my car is MIA right now... I was cut off during a sweeping left, downhill offramp and ended up skidding off the road and flying down a ditch. Damages are estimated at over $13,700 so I'm really hoping insurance doesn't total it... They haven't said anything yet. The way it landed, the car should have flipped... but didn't. These cars are tanks man, saved my sisters life as well as mine. "

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But it's metered at the MAF, right? So wouldn't there be an issue with more of that metered air passing through earlier and more consistently? I'm not too great on understanding flow properties, so bear with me. I would assume the same amount of air would be sucked through the CAI, and metered the same, but instead of having to pass through the restrictive factory inlet, it now passes more efficiently through this piece... Wouldn't that yield more air? Again, forgive my ignorance if it's an obvious thing, I'm just trying to understand.[/b]
I believe you should get more air into the turbo, but that additional air will be passing by the MAF too. So, it should be metered. Air can't get into the turbo without passing through the MAF.
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What kind of timeframe were we looking at on these being ready?
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My supplier said roughly mid-August. He's got to get material in. I intend to have him update the prototype from the picture to have the additional pieces on it.

I'm not sure I should mention this or not, but, I just saw that someone makes one very similar, at least for the Speed 3. I don't know if the inlet pipe is identical on it or not. But, it looks similar. The discussion about it is on another forum, and I seem to remember some forums not liking you to link to another forum. So, here is a link to a picture of it:



It shows a weld, which mine won't. But maybe the picture is of a prototype too. I don't know. Also, I like my idea of utilizing the stock rubber gasket to mate it to the turbo. They are using a coupler. But, overall, looks very similar -- though I think mine is slightly better. And I intend mine to be cheaper. But, if everybody here said that they'd rather get the other product, I could maybe cancel my order with my supplier. As he is waiting on material, he could maybe cancel his order with his supplier. Up to everybody here.
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Personally I like the reducing coupling at the turbo instead of the stock gasket idea, but I'm down for whatever is available.

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My supplier said roughly mid-August. He's got to get material in. I intend to have him update the prototype from the picture to have the additional pieces on it.

I'm not sure I should mention this or not, but, I just saw that someone makes one very similar, at least for the Speed 3. I don't know if the inlet pipe is identical on it or not. But, it looks similar. The discussion about it is on another forum, and I seem to remember some forums not liking you to link to another forum. So, here is a link to a picture of it:



It shows a weld, which mine won't. But maybe the picture is of a prototype too. I don't know. Also, I like my idea of utilizing the stock rubber gasket to mate it to the turbo. They are using a coupler. But, overall, looks very similar -- though I think mine is slightly better. And I intend mine to be cheaper. But, if everybody here said that they'd rather get the other product, I could maybe cancel my order with my supplier. As he is waiting on material, he could maybe cancel his order with his supplier. Up to everybody here.[/b]
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By the way, I think he's using 2.5" pipe. Not sure, but, he said that he isn't beading the end of his pipe as it made getting the intake hose on a little difficult. If he was using 2 3/8" (60 mm) like stock, that wouldn't be an issue. That, and it looks like he's using a 2.5" to 2" reducer. I think mine is better, but, albeit a biased opinion. And I'm sure negligible difference between them.
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QUOTE (jmhinkle @ Jul 28 2008, 02:00 PM)
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"Yeah, I haven't been on much... Diff was replaced under warranty, no question. I have the TT brace and CP-E brace coming to stiffen it up, but my car is MIA right now... I was cut off during a sweeping left, downhill offramp and ended up skidding off the road and flying down a ditch. Damages are estimated at over $13,700 so I'm really hoping insurance doesn't total it... They haven't said anything yet. The way it landed, the car should have flipped... but didn't. These cars are tanks man, saved my sisters life as well as mine. "

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Thanks man. These things don't bother me though. The diff was a replaceable item, and was taken care of. It just hurts to put so much time and energy in polishing up a car, inspecting it daily, keeping it looking fresh and scratch free, paying extra to have a clear bra done only to have some the idiot cut me off and send me sailing into a ditch without any regard. I expected my car to stay on the road, but when you're steering while hitting the brake, it just wants to understeer.... So: goodbye road, hello ditch.

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As long as I don't need a re-tune, I'm all for your design, speedie6. I'd rather wait a little extra and give my business to the guy who's been at the idea for months, busting his tail trying to get it to work. Thanks for all your innovative work!
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"I think he's using 2.5" pipe"

Makes sense for the reasoning of using the reducer. That is much like I was considering when doing my own as well just never got down to it. 2.5 is far easier to source that 2 3/8 so it seems logical I guess. Like I said, when I can actually buy one from somebody to save me some time, I'm down.
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