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303 aerospace protectant is the best in the industry for UV protection, ask anyone who works on convertibles

but first, clean it with a microfiber and some water, if fingerprints still remain, any of the aforementioned leather cleaners (lexol, mcguires, etc) will work wonders
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Man I am learning so much from this thread. I never thought about pH, water vs oil, UV treatment, and treated vs untreated so it is nice to hear these details.

I never cared if it was Meguiar, Griot, Turtle Wax, or Armor All or any brand but I heard the silicone in the armour all was bad for leather. Now I just use a two step leather cleaner and conditioner and call it a day. I know high end UK British cars have a different leather that requires connelley leather stuff. I never liked that UK leather smell, reminds me of fresh fart, moldy cheese, or rich old men.

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Man I am learning so much from this thread. I never thought about pH, water vs oil, UV treatment, and treated vs untreated so it is nice to hear these details.

I never cared if it was Meguiar, Griot, Turtle Wax, or Armor All or any brand but I heard the silicone in the armour all was bad for leather. Now I just use a two step leather cleaner and conditioner and call it a day. I know high end UK British cars have a different leather that requires connelley leather stuff. I never liked that UK leather smell, reminds me of fresh fart, moldy cheese, or rich old men.
You actually bring up a good point here about the info.

With @rmhpmi 's approval, I'd like to rename this thread and make it a sticky so people can more easily find/follow it. There's a LOT of good information here.

What say you, OP?


P.S. This is exactly the reason why I encourage people to make threads if they can't find the info they're after.

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Well it's a good thing you hate the smell of Armor All - that stuff will ruin your interior over time.
Just a FYI.......that's a old rumor started by the competition DECADES ago, Armor All won't harm ANY rubber or plastic, I've used it for years without any issues.
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but I heard the silicone in the armour all was bad for leather.
Armor All is water based, no silicone.
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Armor-All is garbage IMO. Whatever you choose, make sure there are no water based ingredients. That is Armor-All's downfall.
303 is water based and it's one of the best products out there.

If the product is water based it's not real greasy feeling.
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Just a FYI.......that's a old rumor started by the competition DECADES ago, Armor All won't harm ANY rubber or plastic, I've used it for years without any issues.
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Armor All is water based, no silicone.
Doing a bit of reading into this, you're absolutely right.

Armor All had gained quite the terrible reputation a couple decades ago because of the non-water-based silicone they put in it, which had been shown to increase wear over time on vinyl products.

However, a couple decades after having switched to water-based silicone (like every other product has), they still haven't been able to shake the negativity they gained from professional detailers and enthusiasts alike.

The only remaining aspect of Armor All that's different from the competitors (beyond being slightly cheaper) is that it leaves (in general) a slightly thicker coat of gloss as an end result.

Learn something every day - though after the decade I've spent with Griots, I've already got my preference

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303 aerospace protectant is the best in the industry for UV protection, ask anyone who works on convertibles



but first, clean it with a microfiber and some water, if fingerprints still remain, any of the aforementioned leather cleaners (lexol, mcguires, etc) will work wonders


My issue wasn't all that bad. I used 303 and a microfiber towel on the interior (not the seats) and she's like new. Heck, I've only put 988 miles on the car so far. How bad could it have been?




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