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Old 09-05-2007, 04:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I just noticed something when I was shifting. When I'm driving, I can actually shift gears back to neutral without pressing on the clutch. I still have to press the clutch to go to another gear but i just found it weird that I was able to do that. I only did it once or twice to confirm that I can do that but stopped cos I don't want to damage the transmission in the even that it's not really normal for that to happen. Has anyone got the same experience? I have '04 6S mtx.
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So you can shift to neutral w/o pressing in the clutch? If so, that most likely isn't good for the syncros. But that's interesting how that can go through
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So you can shift to neutral w/o pressing in the clutch? If so, that most likely isn't good for the syncros. But that's interesting how that can go through[/b]
You can shift into neutral w/o using the clutch, but I never do because I don't want to get into the habit. THere are some that can shift gears w/o the clutch at all, but it has to be done exactly right or it will mess up your trans. I wouldn't recommend trying it if you don't know what you're doing.
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It's funny you mention this. Earlier today I had the car shifting perfectly fine without the use of the clutch. The key to the whole thing is to shift in and out at the right RPM. You can just feel the car accepting it and it's smooth too if done right.
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I had a chevy s-10 that I could completely shift the gears w/o using the clutch. I would completely rev it through a gear and as I took my foot of the gas, I could quickly shift it into the next gear. I DO NOT suggest doing this with a car you care about but I didn't ever experience a problem from doing it.
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I had a chevy s-10 that I could completely shift the gears w/o using the clutch. I would completely rev it through a gear and as I took my foot of the gas, I could quickly shift it into the next gear. I DO NOT suggest doing this with a car you care about but I didn't ever experience a problem from doing it.[/b]
If you can get the RPM's right you should have a problem, but if you are forcing it into gear then you will cause some serious damage. Its KEY to get the perfect RPM. But I wouldn't recommend driving daily like that, maybe to try it here or there. Its not all that hard to push the clutch.
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I can only shift it back to neutral without clutch. still need it for moving to another gear. kinda like having automatic and u can shift to neutral without pressing the shift button(or whatever it's called) but can't move it to reverse or other gears. I was curious to see if this is something I should be telling the dealer since I am getting close to the end of my warranty.
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I shift into neutral without the clutch all the time. The higher gear you're in, the easier it is to do. If you don't feel any resistance from it, you're not hurting anything. Jerking it out of gear while there's pressure on the transmission from the engine's acceleration or compression braking forces is a bad idea, however.

I've driven several trucks that allowed clutchless shifting, but I've never driven a fwd car that took very kindly to it.
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Being able to pull the stick out of gear (or "shifting into neutral") without the clutch is completely normal. I've driven multiple manuals and they all do it.

However, no matter how "perfect" you shift INTO gear without using the clutch, you are going to most likely do damage to your synchros and gears. If not immediately, then probably over time. IMO, don't even try on a car you care about.
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i wont hurt it but why temp fate. maybe doing it once in awhile wont hurt but not a good pratice. its not designed to operate that way
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