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evolution99 · 01-02-2013, 10:21 PM

When i went for the first test drive in my speed6, the owner told me that there is a power restriction on the first and second gear ( something like -25% power) to protect the gear box or something like that. Thats what his buddy that works at mazda told him. I later did a couple pulls and noticed that it does seem to pull much harder in the 3rd+ gears. Anyone else notice or hear about this? I will also be getting the car dyno tunned very soon, maybe they will be able to confirm this *rumour*.

6Y MAZDA · 01-02-2013, 10:25 PM

get an accessport to get rid of the horrid stock tune and you won't have any limiters/restrictions.

boost is limited in 1st and 2nd gear on stock tune.

Dirk McGurck · 01-02-2013, 10:49 PM

Yeah, AP feels waaaaaaay different.

evolution99 · 01-02-2013, 10:52 PM

Isnt getting a tune at a dyno better than the accessport? considering that i will not be adding anymore power mods, and i know nothing about custom tunning lol

6Y MAZDA · 01-02-2013, 10:54 PM

you cant get a tune without an accessport lol. and e-tuners are a lot better than any dyno tuner you will find.
and if you dont want a custom tune...Cobb has plenty of OTS tunes you download right off there website specified to your list of parts.

evolution99 · 01-02-2013, 10:56 PM

Anyone selling a used accessport? lol, i thought the dyno guys could tap into the ecu and change up the stock tune (just like tha accessport )

6erforlife · 01-02-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by evolution99

When i went for the first test drive in my speed6, the owner told me that there is a power restriction on the first and second gear ( something like -25% power) to protect the gear box or something like that. Thats what his buddy that works at mazda told him. I later did a couple pulls and noticed that it does seem to pull much harder in the 3rd+ gears. Anyone else notice or hear about this? I will also be getting the car dyno tunned very soon, maybe they will be able to confirm this *rumour*.

What mods do you have and do you have any method of monitoring?

I'm pretty sure you need an AP or a Versatuner to tune your car. There are dyno's out there that can tune your car, however you'd have no way to alter a tune they put on without one which depending on natural circumstances, can become catastrophic to your ride.

The problem with the Mazdaspeed is that it uses a very unique engine and most dynotuner's have very little experience in dealing with them. If time to tune your own ride is an issue then I'd say the best bang for your buck would be to purchase an AP and contact one of the etuners on the speed forums. Their world revolves around the intricacies of the DISI mzr engine and would be able to make the most out of your mods. Plus you have the benefit of picking their brains and learning the ins and outs of your car.

jm211 · 01-03-2013, 07:34 AM

Agreed, from my learning disi is very different than port and many etuners here or msf would be happy to help you for less cash and better results, plus safer because they know what they are doing.

Even if you are stock, flashing to an ap ots map, very simple to do, will yield very noticeable results. They r safer, as most say, than the stock tune. If you drive like a Nancy most of the time, I'm sure stock tune is fine but if you start launching,, street racing Honda's and autoexing a ap is needed.

Dirk McGurck · 01-03-2013, 10:41 AM

I've had my AP for only a little while. With just the intake and exhaust and spark plugs, there's better options than the OTS AP tunes?

evolution99 · 01-03-2013, 11:16 AM

All i got is a cobb sri amd test pipe, i will be changing spark plugs very soon along with catback exhaust (but i dont think this affects much)

01-02-2013, 10:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
evolution99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 173 Thanks: 66 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 48 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	speed6 power restriction on 1st,2nd gear When i went for the first test drive in my speed6, the owner told me that there is a power restriction on the first and second gear ( something like -25% power) to protect the gear box or something like that. Thats what his buddy that works at mazda told him. I later did a couple pulls and noticed that it does seem to pull much harder in the 3rd+ gears. Anyone else notice or hear about this? I will also be getting the car dyno tunned very soon, maybe they will be able to confirm this rumour.

01-02-2013, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
6Y MAZDA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,525 Thanks: 211 Thanked 602 Times in 438 Posts Groans: 3 Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 177 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	get an accessport to get rid of the horrid stock tune and you won't have any limiters/restrictions. boost is limited in 1st and 2nd gear on stock tune. __________________ 2006 BCM MS6 GT #00584 CP-E 3" Straight Pipe Exhaust. CP-E TMIC. CS SRI/TIP. SU RMM. SU TP. Forge V1 BPV. Cobb AP. RichTuned. Denso ITV22. PTP HPFP Internals. STi S204 Lip. Megan Racing Springs. GenPu MS3 Wheels. VEI Boost Gauge. Blox Shift Knob. VG Shark Fin. 35W 8000K DDM HID lows/3000k fogs. Super White LED Tag Lights, Parking Lights, Interior Lights. SOLD: 2009 Mazda 6i GT. Comet Gray Mica. 6-speed MT.

01-02-2013, 10:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
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01-02-2013, 10:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
6Y MAZDA Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 2,525 Thanks: 211 Thanked 602 Times in 438 Posts Groans: 3 Groaned at 8 Times in 7 Posts Mentioned: 14 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 177 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	you cant get a tune without an accessport lol. and e-tuners are a lot better than any dyno tuner you will find. and if you dont want a custom tune...Cobb has plenty of OTS tunes you download right off there website specified to your list of parts. __________________ 2006 BCM MS6 GT #00584 CP-E 3" Straight Pipe Exhaust. CP-E TMIC. CS SRI/TIP. SU RMM. SU TP. Forge V1 BPV. Cobb AP. RichTuned. Denso ITV22. PTP HPFP Internals. STi S204 Lip. Megan Racing Springs. GenPu MS3 Wheels. VEI Boost Gauge. Blox Shift Knob. VG Shark Fin. 35W 8000K DDM HID lows/3000k fogs. Super White LED Tag Lights, Parking Lights, Interior Lights. SOLD: 2009 Mazda 6i GT. Comet Gray Mica. 6-speed MT.

01-03-2013, 07:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
jm211 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bradenton Florida Posts: 780 Thanks: 391 Thanked 153 Times in 130 Posts Groans: 4 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 70 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Agreed, from my learning disi is very different than port and many etuners here or msf would be happy to help you for less cash and better results, plus safer because they know what they are doing. Even if you are stock, flashing to an ap ots map, very simple to do, will yield very noticeable results. They r safer, as most say, than the stock tune. If you drive like a Nancy most of the time, I'm sure stock tune is fine but if you start launching,, street racing Honda's and autoexing a ap is needed. __________________ Black Mica 2006 Speed6 GT \| 57,000 Miles Cobb AP \| Stratified OTS Stage 1 \| JBR Stage II Intake - Blue \| CP-e Exhaust \| CP-e RMM \| SURE Shortcut \| SURE Return \| SURE Anchors \| SURE AGS 625g Shift Knob \| All Amsoil Fluids \| NGK Step 1 Colder \| Autotech Internals I'm Registered. Are You? Ms6db.com "I would happily admit to anybody that the Mazdaspeed6 should come with a warning label..." -TiGraySpeed6

01-02-2013, 10:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
evolution99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 173 Thanks: 66 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 48 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Isnt getting a tune at a dyno better than the accessport? considering that i will not be adding anymore power mods, and i know nothing about custom tunning lol

01-02-2013, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
evolution99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 173 Thanks: 66 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 48 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	Anyone selling a used accessport? lol, i thought the dyno guys could tap into the ecu and change up the stock tune (just like tha accessport )

01-03-2013, 10:41 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dirk McGurck Registered User Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Delaware Posts: 416 Thanks: 65 Thanked 87 Times in 65 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 33 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I've had my AP for only a little while. With just the intake and exhaust and spark plugs, there's better options than the OTS AP tunes? __________________ ------------------------------------------------------ 2007 TGM Mazdaspeed6 COBB ACCESSPORT - DENSO ITV22 SPARK PLUGS - COBB SRI - COBB TIH - CUSTOM BORLA CAT-BACK - TWM STAGE 2 SHORT SHIFTER - JBR HEAVYWEIGHT KNOB - TWM SHIFTER BUSHINGS - LED INTERIOR LIGHTS - RPM IPOD CONNECTOR - CHARGESPEED STI LIP - PLASTIDIP'D OEM WHEELS My Speed6 #09241 is registered- How 'bout yours? - ms6db.com

01-03-2013, 11:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
evolution99 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 173 Thanks: 66 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 48 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	All i got is a cobb sri amd test pipe, i will be changing spark plugs very soon along with catback exhaust (but i dont think this affects much)

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