Short Shift Plate on Transmission vs. on Shifter - Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum

jm211 · 12-09-2012, 05:38 PM

I tried looking here and on MSF and really didn't find anything conclusive.

Why pay TWM 150$ for a shift plate that goes on the stem vs. JBR on the transmission?

Does one yield a better "feel"?

Do each tighten up the gates?

zoomspeed91 · 12-09-2012, 05:43 PM

I doubt there's any real difference unless you buy the stage 2 kit with the reduced shifter height. Plus, the corksport shifter plate is much cheaper as well as giving a higher decrease in throw. I'm gonna buy the corksport when I get some extra cash since I am satisfied with the stock height. Not to knock TWM, they build very solid products. I had their short shifter in my last car and the install was easy and it performed great. But almost double the price for the shift plate, I'd go the cheaper route.

http://www.corksport.com/corksport-m...ift-plate.html

jm211 · 12-09-2012, 05:48 PM

I saw that too....

Too bad TWM doesn't make a whole new Cage for us. I'd drop 500$ on that..

If there is no difference between over tranny and on the stem then I guess I'd do over the tranny. oh IDK maybe i do both!

zoomspeed91 · 12-09-2012, 05:51 PM

I just looked at the JBR website and it looks like they offer an even bigger reduction in throw. Corksport (33%) < JBR (40%) with a difference of 10 bucks or so. I just think TWM is asking too much for just the shift plate lol.

jm211 · 12-09-2012, 05:56 PM

I think too...

Anyone who owns one or both types. Is there ANY difference or just go with cheapest or most throw reduction?

oh_yeams6 · 12-09-2012, 11:38 PM

There is no difference, you get the same result; I think of it as compressing a spring...there's two sides.

I've run the TWM+JBR which was a very short shift. I have run each alone as well, and my recommendation is to buy the JBR, as it keeps the shift linkages level, which is the only vendor who considers that, and Jamie is a great guy.

jm211 · 12-10-2012, 06:51 AM

thats for that.

I've considered linkage height as well. If Jamie keeps it most level, I'll buy his. Plus he seems cool.

TiGraySpeed6 · 12-10-2012, 08:30 AM

I run the TWM SII. If I had to do it over again, I'd get the JBR plate to shorten the throws.

That said, I absolutely love the lower height of the StageII. Puts the shifter right under my hand and also helps shorten the throws. If it's not available as just the short arm, then I'd try to buy or trade with somebody on the forums for one.

mba83 · 12-10-2012, 03:25 PM

Transmission side shifter plate is easier to install. So I went with that.

MBA

6erforlife · 12-10-2012, 03:35 PM

I have the TWM stage 2 and I love it! It's a bit notchier and required some adjusting with the pink pin in the linkage but the lowered height and shortened throws make it a blast to zoom around.

After I installed it, I waited a few days before I reinstalled my center console and it's absolutely fascinating watching how short each shift had become and just the whole mechanics of the thing. I've thought about purchasing JBR's shift plate but I don't want it to become to short.

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jm211 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bradenton Florida Posts: 776 Thanks: 387 Thanked 153 Times in 130 Posts Groans: 4 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 69 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I saw that too.... Too bad TWM doesn't make a whole new Cage for us. I'd drop 500$ on that.. If there is no difference between over tranny and on the stem then I guess I'd do over the tranny. oh IDK maybe i do both! __________________ Black Mica 2006 Speed6 GT \| 57,000 Miles Cobb AP \| Stratified OTS Stage 1 \| JBR Stage II Intake - Blue \| CP-e Exhaust \| CP-e RMM \| SURE Shortcut \| SURE Return \| SURE Anchors \| SURE AGS 625g Shift Knob \| All Amsoil Fluids \| NGK Step 1 Colder \| Autotech Internals I'm Registered. Are You? Ms6db.com "I would happily admit to anybody that the Mazdaspeed6 should come with a warning label..." -TiGraySpeed6

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jm211 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bradenton Florida Posts: 776 Thanks: 387 Thanked 153 Times in 130 Posts Groans: 4 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 69 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I think too... Anyone who owns one or both types. Is there ANY difference or just go with cheapest or most throw reduction? __________________ Black Mica 2006 Speed6 GT \| 57,000 Miles Cobb AP \| Stratified OTS Stage 1 \| JBR Stage II Intake - Blue \| CP-e Exhaust \| CP-e RMM \| SURE Shortcut \| SURE Return \| SURE Anchors \| SURE AGS 625g Shift Knob \| All Amsoil Fluids \| NGK Step 1 Colder \| Autotech Internals I'm Registered. Are You? Ms6db.com "I would happily admit to anybody that the Mazdaspeed6 should come with a warning label..." -TiGraySpeed6

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12-09-2012, 05:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
zoomspeed91 Learners License Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I doubt there's any real difference unless you buy the stage 2 kit with the reduced shifter height. Plus, the corksport shifter plate is much cheaper as well as giving a higher decrease in throw. I'm gonna buy the corksport when I get some extra cash since I am satisfied with the stock height. Not to knock TWM, they build very solid products. I had their short shifter in my last car and the install was easy and it performed great. But almost double the price for the shift plate, I'd go the cheaper route. http://www.corksport.com/corksport-m...ift-plate.html

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zoomspeed91 Learners License Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	I just looked at the JBR website and it looks like they offer an even bigger reduction in throw. Corksport (33%) < JBR (40%) with a difference of 10 bucks or so. I just think TWM is asking too much for just the shift plate lol.

12-10-2012, 08:30 AM	#8 (permalink)
TiGraySpeed6 Mazda Guru Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tallahassee Posts: 4,744 Thanks: 1,843 Thanked 2,196 Times in 1,478 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts Mentioned: 53 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s) Quoted: 209 Post(s) iTrader: 1 reviews	I run the TWM SII. If I had to do it over again, I'd get the JBR plate to shorten the throws. That said, I absolutely love the lower height of the StageII. Puts the shifter right under my hand and also helps shorten the throws. If it's not available as just the short arm, then I'd try to buy or trade with somebody on the forums for one. __________________ Mazdaspeed6 GT #3476 TiGray slicktop Cobb AP, SRI & TIP, BNR S3, MAC 3 Port, FMIC, TS BPV, 3 BAR MAP, VTCS Delete M2 DP & Magnaflow, KMD Internals, GPWerks BSD & Baffle, SM OCC, EGR Delete, SU Billet RMM TWM Stage II STS & JBR SSB, Prosport Mech Boost RX-8 wheels & 235/40 RE760, H&R Sport Springs, SPC abj's, Strapped diff Stage 1 Brakes: Slotted, Hawk’d, Lined & Blued 405/394 AWD - cf1.01 e38 BNRs3 315/372 AWD - cf1.01 e38 k04

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