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Potential MS6 buyer, need help with pricing asap
Sorry this is long-winded, but I'm looking to buy the car tomorrow evening or Saturday morning and need answers asap.
I'm looking to buy a speed 6 from a non Mazda dealer. 06' LPM, GT, 52k, completely stock, 1 owner servicing the car in MD and VA. Car is in MD where I live.
My ultimate goal for this thread is to talk the dealer down in price. I've read buyers guide so I know the shit points of the car.
Long story short, we both decided that we should send the car to Mazda to see if the VVT, timing chain and turbo fell under warranty and go from there as the car ran a little rough.
The non Mazda dealer called back saying the timing chain was going to be replaced and not the turbo per Mazda saying the smoke wasn't bad enough or its not caused by the turbo. I asked about the VVT issue and he said he didn't think they did that warranty claim. It was too late in the day to call Mazda to get the rundown from them. I'm calling them in the morning but I could potentially buy the car tomorrow or Saturday. So, I want some quick opinions from you guys.
1. What are the scenarios that would cause white smoke, if not the turbo, and how much do you think parts/repairs would cost to fix it? I want to use this number to further lower the price.
2. There is rust on the strut tower black piece and bolts and some on this thin metal piece going over a tan fluid reservoir next to the lower left corner of the intercooler. The piece is still solid despite rust. What is this piece and what would cause the rust in the engine bay? How much can I talk them down due to this rust?
Let me also say that this car would have gone to auction (their words) if not for my inquiry the morning after they got it as a trade. The dealer also deals in high end cars i.e. a Mazda would be an eyesore on their lot. So, I know they don't really give a crap about this car.
The dealer will be giving me new all-season tires (idk the brand).
***So....they want 17k. My friend thinks they would've taken a 5k hit off their asking price if it went to the auction. My initial thought was 16k on the road including taxes, etc. Now that the turbo claim was denied, I don't know how much to lower the price cuz I'm new to turbos and I don't know what else would cause the white smoke. My new thought is 15.5k or 15k, but that's just a guess as to what repairs might be.
Please equip me with knowledge so I can get a good deal on this car. Any help is much appreciated!
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