Respect for Sure Motorsports? - Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum
Go Back   Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum > Technical / Performance / Model > Mazda 6 1st Generation (2002-2008) > Mazdaspeed6
New User? Register
Mazda6Club.com is the premier Mazda 6 Forum on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads.
User Tag List

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-25-2010, 04:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
Registered User
 
PIXLGAZR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 186
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 42
Thanked 38 Times in 28 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default Respect for Sure Motorsports?

Hi guys,

I'm not sure what to think of Sure Motorsports and want to hear what others think. Sure Motorsports recently opened shop with a bunch of what appears to be very good "me too" products.

On the one hand I welcome a new supplier that is focused on the Mazdaspeed platforms but on the other hand I can't help but feel they are 'stealing' from the existing suppliers that invested in the platforms earlier. Ultimately, I'm worried that this new comer will make things worse for us because the old suppliers will not have enough income from their existing products to fund new ones. Also, since Sure hasn't shown any big innovation this may signal the end of new products for us. See the problem? What do you think?

Not convinced they have me too products?

Aeros
This is a cross between the successful COBB SRI and the cp-e Xcel Nano. COBB was the innovator here by providing an very good alternative to the CAIs on the market. cp-e then put their spin on a short intake and made one out of metal instead of plastic and silicone tubing. Sure takes the metal MAF housing idea from cp-e and combines it with the quieter silicone tube from the COBB piece. I'm sure the Aeros is a good product simply because I know both the COBB and cp-e products are good.

Sidewinder
This looks like a copy of the COBB TIP but with stronger joint pipes that will resist kinking when the clamps are over tightened. That's a small innovation but do we need this alternative? At least cp-e offers a version that is made for bigger turbos.

Dreadnaught
This is another rear differential brace. There's no description on the Sure site yet so we can't comment on it too much but do we need another option? Aren't the SU or cp-e parts enough?

R6
I assume this will be a rear motor mount similar to that offered by SU and cp-e. I wonder what innovation Sure will bring to one of the oldest replacement parts on the speed 6 platform.

They have other parts but you get the picture.

This is important to me because I've been waiting for my car's warranty to expire before modding it and I'm now ready to buy all the above parts either from COBB, cp-e, or now Sure. If I buy from Sure I'd want to know that 1) they'll use the money to make other products and 2) there's also more of you willing to do the same so they can actually make it happen. If the majority of you will shun Sure then my money would be better spent supporting COBB and cp-e and hope they'll continue developing products for us.

I'd really like to hear what you guys think.

Cheers!
__________________
2007 Titanium Grey Mazdaspeed 6
Mazdaspeed forged wheels (18x7.5) gun metal | 225/45ZR18 Hankook Ventus V12 | SURE ShortCut, CounterShift, & Anchors
Cobb AccessPORT v3, XLE bpv, SF, & TIH | CorkSport tmic | Saikou Michi occ | STRI DSM-SLM II boost gauge
SURE Juggernaught, Dreadnaught, & Torq R6 | Whiteline 24mm rear swaybar | cut OEM springs | Bilstein HD shocks | SPC ball joints
Autotech HPFP internals | 3.0 bar MAP sensor | CP-e SafeSeal seals | JBR EGR delete
PIXLGAZR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The Following User Says Thank You to PIXLGAZR For This Useful Post:
MazdaSpeedSD619 (11-26-2010)
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-25-2010, 05:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
Registered User
 
RhoadBlock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Brandon, FL
Posts: 1,609
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 207 Times in 135 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

They seem to be well built products, and they definitely look gorgeous (for what that's worth since you'll never see some of the stuff). But you're right, Everything they've made is already on the market, and they're pretty basic mods - hard to improve on simple products. I'm sure they've got more threads concerning future products on other forums, but I don't frequent them. The other thing tho is these are easy parts to make just to get their feet wet, so hopefully they'll be capable of producing some more big HP rides for us, but only time will tell.

Their shop is only like 1.5 hrs from where I live (as is SU). Next time I go out to SU HQ I'm wanting to swing by SURE to see what they're all about. I'll post up for ya when I get over there
__________________

WFC #271 sub 3000lb curb wieght & a blown motor. 2.3L Duratec acquired. Bye bye DI.
Sponsors: Soundwaves of Tampa | StreetUnit | Team SSP
RhoadBlock is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-25-2010, 09:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
Registered User
 
speedtown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Burlington Vermont
Posts: 884
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 103
Thanked 68 Times in 62 Posts
Groans: 7
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

+1 all their parts I've seen look amazing. Hopefully they perform as well, it's always nice having options out there.
__________________
06 MS6 VRM
AP Stage 2 (Self Tuned 18 psi), PG SRI, PG TIP, TurboXS RP, ETS TMIC, Forge BPV, SU RMM, TWM Stage 1, JB SSP, Bnoon Bolt, Denso 1 step colder, Prosport Boost gauge in a Block8head Pod

speedtown is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-25-2010, 09:14 PM   #4 (permalink)
Registered User
 
PIXLGAZR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Toronto, ON
Posts: 186
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Thanks: 42
Thanked 38 Times in 28 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: 1 reviews
Default

Indeed the Sure products look very good and tempting. Most of you guys have already purchased these upgrades. Hopefully some folks that are just starting to mod their car will chime in.
__________________
2007 Titanium Grey Mazdaspeed 6
Mazdaspeed forged wheels (18x7.5) gun metal | 225/45ZR18 Hankook Ventus V12 | SURE ShortCut, CounterShift, & Anchors
Cobb AccessPORT v3, XLE bpv, SF, & TIH | CorkSport tmic | Saikou Michi occ | STRI DSM-SLM II boost gauge
SURE Juggernaught, Dreadnaught, & Torq R6 | Whiteline 24mm rear swaybar | cut OEM springs | Bilstein HD shocks | SPC ball joints
Autotech HPFP internals | 3.0 bar MAP sensor | CP-e SafeSeal seals | JBR EGR delete
PIXLGAZR is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-25-2010, 10:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
Registered User
 
RayDog26's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,415
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Thanks: 226
Thanked 194 Times in 157 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

i was wondering about these products too since i seen them pop up on SU. hopefully we get some people to leave feedback on quality. prices are about even with everything else so its only a matter of which brand u prefer in my opinion.
__________________


2006 MazdaSpeed 6 - Liquid Platinum Metallic - COBB SRI, COBB TIP, COBB AP, eBay DP w/ magnaflow Cat, S.M. OCC, JBR EGR Delete, JBR S.S.B, SURE ShortCut, SURE CounterShift, SURE Torq R6, COBB Shifter Knob, AutoMeter 3303 Vac/Boost Gauge, "Block8Head" Vent Pod, AMSOIL Fluids

Soon - KMD Internals, Streetunit TMIC...
RayDog26 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-25-2010, 11:18 PM   #6 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Dot584's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Bay area
Posts: 81
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Thanks: 22
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

SU basically told me that their diffmount was not going to come back into stock and they pushed me to buy the Sure mount, which in the end I did accept. Same goes for the shifter bushings I also tried to order from SU. Despite the price difference they only charged me for the price of the SU products! This made me very happy obviously and once the products arrive on the 30th I will be sure to report on it. Unfortunately I only have the stock pieces to compare it to so it may be of no use but its still better than not knowing anything about Sure products. Has anyone else bought anything from Sure, or am I the guinea pig?
__________________
2006 Silver Speed6 GT
E.T.S. 3.5" intercooler, Corksport 3" downpipe, Magnaflow 2.5 exhaust, C.P.E. cold air intake, C.P.E. turbo inlet pipe, Turbosmart dual port bov (recirculating), Prosport gauges (boost, oil preasure, e.g.t), H & R sport springs, RMM
Dot584 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-25-2010, 11:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
Registered User
 
RayDog26's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: South Jersey
Posts: 1,415
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Thanks: 226
Thanked 194 Times in 157 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

cool man be sure to keep us posted and maybe a few pics ! i hope they work great for you. i am considering some stuff myself but hate being a guinea pig !
__________________


2006 MazdaSpeed 6 - Liquid Platinum Metallic - COBB SRI, COBB TIP, COBB AP, eBay DP w/ magnaflow Cat, S.M. OCC, JBR EGR Delete, JBR S.S.B, SURE ShortCut, SURE CounterShift, SURE Torq R6, COBB Shifter Knob, AutoMeter 3303 Vac/Boost Gauge, "Block8Head" Vent Pod, AMSOIL Fluids

Soon - KMD Internals, Streetunit TMIC...
RayDog26 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-26-2010, 01:29 PM   #8 (permalink)
Registered User
 
djmarkian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Brooklyn, New York
Posts: 2,780
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 95 Post(s)
Thanks: 286
Thanked 172 Times in 128 Posts
Groans: 13
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

Damn the parts looks good...
__________________
2006 Mazdaspeed 6 sport #01820- Whitewater Pearl
COBB AP(Stage1+SF+TIH+IC 93), SRI; HKS SSQV, Denso ITV22, CS HPFP, custom FMIC, BSD w/PTP baffle, Custom CC, MF cat-back, ATP DP/vibrant performance HF cat, VP resonator, EGR delete, Sparco Ring SW w/NRG quick release hub, Sparco R100, STRI Xline Boost, OEM Clutch w/Fidanza FW, TWM stage 1, COBB shift knob, CS front strut & rear bar, Megan H-Bar, H&R coils, Whiteline RSB, Drag DR-34 18x8 et47, Falken Ziex 235-40/18.
djmarkian is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
The Following User Says Thank You to djmarkian For This Useful Post:
MazdaSpeedSD619 (11-26-2010)
Old 11-26-2010, 01:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Mazda Guru
 
MWSpeed6's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,154
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 232 Post(s)
Thanks: 949
Thanked 957 Times in 691 Posts
Groans: 2
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

I'm impressed with the presentation. I won't need any of their current products, but I'm going to watch this company and their future products, as well as customer feedback. The fact that they are Mazda-specific is a plus in my opinion.
__________________
2007 mazdaspeed6 GT | ti. gray | #9267

Bolted + BNR S3 turbo. Tuned w/ COBB AP.
MWSpeed6 is online now   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 11-26-2010, 02:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Dephect's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Tampa, Florida
Posts: 738
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Thanks: 144
Thanked 195 Times in 145 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
iTrader: 0 reviews
Default

I plan on purchasing what they call their "Anchors" . I love the idea of having your own terminology for your products. Kinda makes them seem more fun! And yes, their presentation on their products are fantastic for a company that makes automotive parts. It's almost unreal to put forth that work so I'm assuming they are here to stay as a driving force in innovation for our cars. At least that's my speculation at this early stage in the game

http://www.suremotorsports.com/products/anchors
__________________
'93 Rx7 FD3S- 445rwhp 397rwtq Daily Driver__ SOLD!

'06 MazdaSpeed6 GT Black Mica
Mods:Cobb AP (Stage 2+ 93oct B-tuned), MS CAI, Forge BPV v1, Denso ITV-22's, Whiteline RSB, SURE RMM + Dreadnaught, SURE shifter bushings, SU test pipe, BC coilovers.


Quote:
Originally Posted by jm211 View Post

OP: Don't feel bad, at least those Mazda techs wont eff up your ride....
Dephect is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Mazda 6 Forums : Mazda 6 Forum / Mazda Atenza Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:20 PM.



Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2