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I know that our awd system is very sensitive to varying wheel and tire sizes, so my question is, is it worth having the spare and jack on the car?. I want to get rid of it, well not rid of it, but just remove it for now. We all had a discussion of making the speed lighter and I think this will help a lot.

Some of you are going to say, yes we do it need it just to make it to the next gas station or whatever. But I think ill take the risk of driving my flat tire there instead of stopping and replacing the wheel with the spare and putting it back again. To me its basically the same situation. Well what do you guys think?...

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not sure how you feel about your rims, but i can assure you they will hate you if you drive more than a mile or so on a flat. so now you will be potentially replacing a tire and wheel?

now, you CAN replace the jack and spare with a bottle of fix-a-flat, but keep in mind you are ensuring that you will not be repairing that tire, only replacing it. then comes then, well, can i replace just one, or do i have to replace 2 now....when it could have potentially just been repaired.

many things to think about, and is the added 50lbs from the jack/spare that detrimental to daily driving? just remove it for track days and canyon runs if you want, but why for a commute?

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Keep in mind we have AWD, so its not even just 2, but potentially 4.

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i was thinking the same thing until i caught an 8" metal file in my rear pass. tire, in LA no less. i would have been screwed waiting for a tow truck. and then i would most likely pay extra out of pocket because my car is too low...


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I'm all for saving weight, but it's kinda nice to have some extra weight in the back to help balance it out
you know, kinda like how people like to move the battery to the trunk...

Although, I suppose if your just going in a short straight lines then it's better out...

I do prefer turns to drag strips tho...


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if you are mostly a city commuter like I am, you won't need it for the most part. I dont travel out of the city most of the time and the maximum distance I drive within it is about 15 miles in one-way directions. Lots of places to stop and call a bud or family member to come out and take me back to my apartment, get my spare and come back to put it on.

When i have to drive long distances for work or just vacationing, I'll put it back in. It doesn't weigh a ton and not that hard to put back in.

Of course if you live in more rural/suburban areas it'd be a little riskier due to 20+ mile drives.

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Yeah I learned this the hard way. Keep it in the car !!. My tire blew out and I needed to be towed. It sucked and is not worth saving a 50 pounds.

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Thanks for all the great responses, and I think Mr.Tea has a great point. I just wanted to throw it out there and see what others think. I did remove it one time when I took her to the track and the car felt great. And the others also had a great point too.

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Personnel preference I say.

Remove the wheel, remove the weight, and then plan to wait. (for a tow I mean)

Leave it in, keep the weight, and then there's no wait.

However I've notice you're not running the standard 215/45 18, so yeah putting that spare on you stand the risk of damaging something, whether you drive 10ft or 10 miles. If somethings going to give it's going to give. Are you willing to take the risk???

Me, I don't run the stock tire either. I got Free Roadside assistance through my insurance company, flat tire doesn't mean I can't run the AC or Heat if I'm stuck some where. But I also keep my spare in just in case I get stuck in BFE and it's a last resort. It's gonna take alot more then a missing spare tire for me to tell any difference in gain.


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i'm one of those guys that's never late, 15-20min early everywhere including work every day. i refuse to have a flat make me late for anything, expecially when i can change one in under 5 min. those of you who are fine with a tow must never have anything important waiting for you. imagine a call that your mom/gf/friend was in an accident and you need to get to the hospital...you get a flat and now you have to wait for a tow? imagine taking your wife when she's ready to pop...yeah, hold it in honey, we're gonna have to just wait for the tow.

again, i live driving agressive as much as the next guy, but i plan for those times accordingly.

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