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r573ham · 11-10-2012, 04:43 PM

not sure it was that sensor now. the car started with it plugged in and is still doin the same thing. the codes i get say tps/ accelerator pedal high input. i can completely unplug the tps while the carr is runnin and nothing happens at all. im really confused now. could it be the ecm? but how would te car know any difference if its the same exact motor and trans that wwere in the car?

r573ham · 11-10-2012, 04:54 PM

if i switch the ecm/ecu, will it work without beingflashed if i switch the ignition with it?

flipper66 · 11-12-2012, 11:25 AM

no it won't work with the ignition system.

sounds like you damaged the harness that goes to the Throttle body if you are truly unplugging the "TPS".

PS our TPS is built into our throttle body, which is making your posts very confusing.

r573ham · 11-12-2012, 02:44 PM

I know I'm saying I'm unplugging the tps / throttle body. sorry for the confusion.

flipper66 · 11-12-2012, 03:47 PM

yep, time to start checking the harness there. otherwise the TB is dead.

how is battery voltage on/off load btw?

r573ham · 11-13-2012, 11:09 AM

battery tested fine. but i did find a Mazda TSB for the 2003-2004 mazda 6s throttle body. here is the link. http://sdbhost.com/cms/docs/Mazda6s-TBHarness.pdf seems like this is the same issue i may be having, what do you think. my CEL codes are P2135, P2110, P0123, P0223. thanks for all your help

flipper66 · 11-13-2012, 11:59 AM

that harness is related to the new TB's that just starting being made. if you used an old throttle body, then it isn't your issue.

r573ham · 11-13-2012, 12:05 PM

ahhhhh thanks for sinking my ship. lol im not sure i will have to look at the part number on my TB. may have been replaced before i bought the car possibly. if so is that something i can make? it looks like all there doing is bridging the yellow and brown wires together.

flipper66 · 11-13-2012, 12:17 PM

it is just diode based on what everyone says. later models are already covered for this condition. it also only happens when the car is warm.... during cold start it isn't an issue.

r573ham · 11-13-2012, 01:34 PM

ok, you know where i can get a diagram for the tps electrical and ecm? im not to fond of electrical stuff. how would I test that?

11-12-2012, 11:25 AM	#23 (permalink)
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11-10-2012, 04:54 PM	#22 (permalink)
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11-12-2012, 02:44 PM	#24 (permalink)
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11-13-2012, 11:09 AM	#26 (permalink)
r573ham Learners License Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 21 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	battery tested fine. but i did find a Mazda TSB for the 2003-2004 mazda 6s throttle body. here is the link. http://sdbhost.com/cms/docs/Mazda6s-TBHarness.pdf seems like this is the same issue i may be having, what do you think. my CEL codes are P2135, P2110, P0123, P0223. thanks for all your help

11-13-2012, 12:05 PM	#28 (permalink)
r573ham Learners License Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 21 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 0 Post(s) iTrader: 0 reviews	ahhhhh thanks for sinking my ship. lol im not sure i will have to look at the part number on my TB. may have been replaced before i bought the car possibly. if so is that something i can make? it looks like all there doing is bridging the yellow and brown wires together.

11-13-2012, 01:34 PM	#30 (permalink)
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