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ttshark
I want to buy these Rota Torque Rims of 18" by 9.5 et35.

They are 5x114.3 so they should fit the six. My question is, seeing as I am new to calculating offset and such, will the wheels touch the caliper at all or will I be okay?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROTA-TORQUE-alloy-w...=item3ca2dae70b

Cheers

pray4mojo
QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 27 2009, 05:56 PM) *
I want to buy these Rota Torque Rims of 18" by 9.5 et35.

They are 5x114.3 so they should fit the six. My question is, seeing as I am new to calculating offset and such, will the wheels touch the caliper at all or will I be okay?

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ROTA-TORQUE-alloy-w...=item3ca2dae70b

Cheers


http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

make some measurements and all i have to say is good luck 5.gif
djmarkian
Nice wheels but they are not gonna fit, unless you do some crazy rolling and pulling of your fenders lol...
bmorrisj
yea its not the caliper you have to worry about its your fender eating the tire (or vice versa)

low offset, closer to 0 and the negative range stick out further and have a deeper dish

around +42 offset starts getting unconfortable for most, with having to roll and pull.

im running a +35 offset with a 18x8....
jd42
QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 27 2009, 08:56 PM) *
I want to buy these Rota Torque Rims of 18" by 9.5 et35.

They are 5x114.3 so they should fit the six. My question is, seeing as I am new to calculating offset and such, will the wheels touch the caliper at all or will I be okay?

I highly doubt you'll have any caliper clearance issues with that setup.

The more immediate concern would be fender rubbing. What size tires do you intend to run? With a 9.5" rim width, I'd assume something 255mm or wider. Those sorts of widths combined with a +35mm offset will almost certainly lead to fender clearance issues. Rolling the fenders may help, but I wouldn't be surprised if these won't clear even rolled fenders.

Make sure you find out the hub bore of those rims. The Mazda6 is 67.1mm. If the rims are larger, you can get adapters to fill in the difference. If the rims are smaller, your best solution is to have the rim hubs machined.
Egierda
Not a chance on the rears.

You'll be pulling your fenders and cursing the whole time.
ttshark
QUOTE (bmorrisj @ Oct 28 2009, 12:38 PM) *
yea its not the caliper you have to worry about its your fender eating the tire (or vice versa)

low offset, closer to 0 and the negative range stick out further and have a deeper dish

around +42 offset starts getting unconfortable for most, with having to roll and pull.

im running a +35 offset with a 18x8....


Well these wheels are +35 but the fact that they are 9.5 does not allow for much similarities

QUOTE (jd42 @ Oct 28 2009, 12:38 PM) *
I highly doubt you'll have any caliper clearance issues with that setup.

The more immediate concern would be fender rubbing. What size tires do you intend to run? With a 9.5" rim width, I'd assume something 255mm or wider. Those sorts of widths combined with a +35mm offset will almost certainly lead to fender clearance issues. Rolling the fenders may help, but I wouldn't be surprised if these won't clear even rolled fenders.

Make sure you find out the hub bore of those rims. The Mazda6 is 67.1mm. If the rims are larger, you can get adapters to fill in the difference. If the rims are smaller, your best solution is to have the rim hubs machined.


I will be running as low a tire size as possible. I'm talking stretched sexiness. I am not entirely sure what you mean by hub bore. Can you explain a little further?

QUOTE (Egierda @ Oct 28 2009, 12:42 PM) *
Not a chance on the rears.

You'll be pulling your fenders and cursing the whole time.


Yeah well by biggest concern was actually the rears (eg. passengers). My car is not lowered at all so are we talking once lowered or even stock height?!?
Egierda
Dropping your car will only increase the frequency of rubbing...it won't suddenly cause it to rub if you weren't rubbing in the first place. Even at stock ride height, if the suspension gets compressed enough, yes..you'll rub heavily. I guarantee it.
pray4mojo
i hope youre planning on lowering your car otherwise it will look horrible. get stiffer suspension (springs/shocks or coilovers) to reduce your suspension travel so you dont rub (as much)
ttshark
QUOTE (Egierda @ Oct 28 2009, 04:28 PM) *
Dropping your car will only increase the frequency of rubbing...it won't suddenly cause it to rub if you weren't rubbing in the first place. Even at stock ride height, if the suspension gets compressed enough, yes..you'll rub heavily. I guarantee it.


Ahh yes I remember that being mentioned in another thread. Would dampening adjustment affect this or does dampening adjustment still experience the same amount of rubbing? A mate of mine needs a dampening level of at least 3/6 on his coilovers otherwise his headers scrape on the road.

Another two questions. Being full alloy, are these Rota wheels considered "light weight" compared to others? They wouldn't be like the gram lights, but close perhaps? And finally, if I run on 17x9.5 instead... (if that exists) would this drastically reduce the chance of rubbing?

Edit: If I get these I will also be getting BC Racing Coilovers.. so yes it will be lowered
pray4mojo
yes damping affects the amount of rubbing.

and if you want to keep the same or close to the same wheel/tire diameter then getting 17x9.5 would not matter.

rotas are definitely not considered lightweight.
Egierda
QUOTE (pray4mojo @ Oct 28 2009, 01:53 AM) *
yes damping affects the amount of rubbing.

and if you want to keep the same or close to the same wheel/tire combo then getting 17x9.5 would not matter.

rotas are definitely not considered lightweight.

+1
Business
QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 27 2009, 08:30 PM) *
I'm talking stretched sexiness.


Such a thing does not exist, nor will it ever.
MicaBlackMS6
QUOTE (Business @ Oct 28 2009, 02:04 AM) *
Such a thing does not exist, nor will it ever.

For a sane person. Now if you go over to golfmkv.com.....
Egierda
QUOTE (Business @ Oct 28 2009, 02:04 AM) *
Such a thing does not exist, nor will it ever.

+17,007!!!!
jd42
QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 27 2009, 10:30 PM) *
I will be running as low a tire size as possible. I'm talking stretched sexiness.

Assuming you are keeping approximately the same overall diameter as stock (a very good idea for speedo accuracy and ABS functionality), the smallest tire recommended on an 18"x9.5" rim is 235/40R18. This will definitely be stretched. With that tire size, your setup will be about 1.25" closer to the fender than stock. Wider tires will make the problem even worse. Rolling the fenders will probably gain you 0.5" to 1.0". I think you are looking at cutting and pulling the fenders to make these rims work.

QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 27 2009, 10:30 PM) *
I am not entirely sure what you mean by hub bore. Can you explain a little further?

The Mazda 6 (like many other cars), has hub-centric rim mounting. There is a raised lip on the hub surface with an outer diameter of 67.1mm that the center hole of the rim fits over. If your aftermarket rims' bore is too small, they won't fit. Too big, and you can get adapters to make up the difference.

QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 28 2009, 01:40 AM) *
Another two questions. Being full alloy, are these Rota wheels considered "light weight" compared to others?

Cast alloy rims are lighter than steel, but not "lightweight" as far as aftermarket rims go. If less weight is your goal, look at forged rims (but be prepared to shell out some money).

QUOTE (ttshark @ Oct 28 2009, 01:40 AM) *
And finally, if I run on 17x9.5 instead... (if that exists) would this drastically reduce the chance of rubbing?

The rim diameter and offset are separate specs. Using a smaller rim would dictate a taller tire, but doesn't change the fender clearance. More offset moves the wheel (and tire) away from the fender-- but then you have to make sure to clear the suspension components on the inside.

In fact, the 17" rim actually makes the problem even worse. The 235/45R17 and 245/45R17 sizes aren't recommend for 9.5" rims, so you'd either need to go wider with 255/45R17 or step up to 265/40R17. Now your fender clearance problems would become outrageous without significant re-work of the fenders.

QUOTE (Egierda @ Oct 28 2009, 01:28 AM) *
Even at stock ride height, if the suspension gets compressed enough, yes..you'll rub heavily. I guarantee it.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for not repeating the myth! 20.gif
So many people erroneously think that lowering the suspension causes rubbing issues and raising it fixes them. Lowering the car only makes existing clearance issues show up more easily.
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