First let me apologize for the somewhat vague GI thread as this project has just made some serious progress and I personally am in the process of partnership changes
With that aside...

I was in the process of lighting up Dr. Frankenstiens Lab for my own personal sheet metal intake made from another car's mani merged with my own made head flange.
That has since been scrapped for a true DISI MZR sheet metal intake for the speed6
As I secure some interest and the prototype is finished and installed on my car, the details will be released as to what plenum size and design is used, etc.

*It will be a short runner design
*The runners will be thick for future NOS or Meth installs(drill & tap)
*The plenum will have any number of vacuum and EGR ports you desire(specify when ordering)
*the factory throttle body will be used although hole size will be enlarged for potential size upgrades in the future
*It will look sick as hell
*will flow like crazy

for those interested, when we are closer this mani will require a 50% deposit on your order
the price quote if we can get 5 people serious about this is between 500 & 600 dollars
if we would get more, then the price would obviously drop some.

again, my apologies for being vague for the first post but the manufacturer is local to me and they make mani's for EVO, SRT-4, and 1st and 2nd gen DSM's
they make quality manifolds and you will not be dissappointed.

last thoughts
although this manifold will "bolt on" to the head with no modification
and you will be able to "bolt on" your throttle body
the vacuum lines will have to be run using store bought hoses of your choice and your cold side IC pipe may have to be modded slightly since the length and height of the sheet metal plenum will move the location of the throttle body up and over toward the drivers side slightly but nothing drastic

I'm excited about this as flow mods for this engine pay off big time
Please don't say you want one of these if you really don't
regardless of how many people buy them, they will still be making mine
But keep this in mind, if there are orders for these prior to completion, this manifold will be treated and set up as a production mani rather than a one off like IT IS right at this writing.

so fire away guys
I probably missed a ton of details but we can hash that out in this thread

I'll start the list:

1)SSinstaller

Seems promising coming from whoosh, even if it is vague. Maybe you can post pictures of the other mani's the company makes to give an idea of looks and quality? Anyways, I think you have something here and should have no problems meeting 5 people. I would think the whole P3 crowd would want to have one.

excellent!
the * are confirmed interested on PM and by phone last night, up to those guys to add their name is they want to

1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg

lol
that was quick, thanks mdogg!

What's the timeframe on this - from now to deposit to final payment/possession?

couple of quick questions,

when u say we will need to re-run vaccume hoses, why wont the OEM vaccum ports on the stock intake match the positions of the ones on the SM intake? and i would assume even if they are even a little bit different is there not enough play in the stock hose configurations for this? the reason being is that the closer to stock you can make this mani the more people will buy it. a new IM is one of the things we have all been waiting for and if people can buy knowing its fully "bolt-on-able" they wont have to worry about running new hoses and finding a solution for a new cold pipe. also if theres really nothing you can do about these changes because they affect the performance and flow of the mani itself, i would suggest including new vaccume hoses and a new silicone coupler for the TB as part of a kit. bob villa himself would be intimidated by the fabrication and custom sklls you have whoosh but we are all not that blessed haha. anyway im just trying to get this off the ground and make it fly as well as possible and ease of install is a huge thing for people with limited resources, space, and time.


HUGE EDIT!!!!!:

CAN WE GET A NEW FEAKIN' LOCATION FOR THE PCV?!?! CC install will be a breeze afterwards!!!

that's tough especially for an item like this
I had a lengthy conversation with the shop owner earlier and did ask that same question

I'll throw a guess out there but don't hold me to it as you know sometimes these things take some time.

thread life of approx 1 week
prototype completion and install on my car...3 weeks from now
deposits after prototype completion is what the owner said
4-8 weeks delivery from that point.

It may seem like a long time but this is reality with parts like these
I imagine we will be on the shorter end of the time estimate simply because our manifold does not require things that others mani's do such as injector bungs and backets for throttle cables, etc.
It's a simple mani in comparison to some

all valid points
I'll do my best to answer but keep in mind that I am offering this as a favor for guys interested knowing the butt pain it takes to get stuff like this accomplished for a low production run vehicle and I know that this company is not one that will make it a kit with all kinds of hoses and fasteners and install sheets. They sell SMI's as other company's do knowing that they all require some "fitting" and are not intended to be 100% stock replacements.

as for the OEM vacuum points
why wouldn't you want to extend and use better hose (vs. hard plastic) and run the vacuum on the side or under the plenum to make a cleaner install?
you will have to remove VCTS entirely including vacuum, etc to make this work.

Anyone that needs guidance during this install has me at their disposal
when the prototype is complete be assured there will be install pics and tips to make anyone's Q's or fears go away.

I got your back buddy

1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)***********
4)sbspeed

whoosh your customer service reputation is right there with CPE's so trust me we are not worried about that. After you get your mani installed and tested and everything working, if you could give us a detailed materials list (hose lengths, # of clamps needed, ect.) and a sweet boostaddict quality write up i think that would be plenty for most of the DIY'ers on here. it just makes it easier on people when they know they arent going into a project blind and they will atleast have some guidence esp before they decide to even purchase the product. do you have a max # of spots to fill? i guess im confused on wether your doing this on the side for us with a limited production run or will you be able to offer this to anyone interested wether it be 6 months or a year down the line. the reason i ask is because many people are fully bolted and will want this now and there are also be upcoming interest as the factory warranty will be running out soon and people will be more likely to take the plunge. everything you have done for us so far whoosh has been amazing and people appreciate your courage more then you might realize. you are truly an asset and an idol to this community and we know we can always count on you for advice with problems and concerns.

now if we could only get you to get the flash done with a SB tune so we can really see what that puppy is made of.......

if you mean the fitting on the bottom rear of the OEM mani for the PCV hose, it will be on the bottom of the plenum (planned to be) and will be easily reached in comparison to the OEM situation

If you are removing the stock IM for any reason (cleaning or to replace it to put this new one in) then the catch-can install is cake.

you got my PM. add me to the list.

sweet
thanks sbspeed and Mark!

No need for me to be in asterisks...lol.

Ok Whoosh it's been 24 hours, you have five names, where is the goddamn prototype!

Oh and also, powder coating options included???? (I call red:)

Whoosh please add me to the list, I have been waiting a long time for such a part.

Thank you for making this happen.

im a maybe... ill keep an eye out and after the prototype is done ill make up my mind.

You said it is a short runner style, but is it a log style? I am a big fan of short runners on boosted engines.

Whoosh,

This may be a bit above my skill level but I'm very happy with a couple of your previous adventures - the VTCS delete and the OCC so Im on board with this one as well. However, if your delivery time line goes long or shifts to the right I may have to withdraw as I will be going on deployment around that time. Cant wait to see what youve come up with

Keep up the great work brother,
Aaragon

it's a basic sheet metal intake
short runner into a square log type plenum.

My next appointment is Monday.
I'll be able to post pics and company name, etc after that.

I'll want one, but won't commit myself until after I have deposit in hand. I'm waiting for some money to come in real soon.

hey man, I just didn't feel right signing people up publicly even though I knew you were in 100%

as for powder coating, you may have to tackle that on your own.
Jason has been using the same company I use and is happy with price and especially serivce and quality.

Bonehead Performance is the company here in PA

I have an appointment Monday after work so dates and other details should be available.



OK, your on the list
I'm not going to add any of the maybe guys as I need to know the "for sure" members for now.

OK so here is the list so far

1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed

I guess we can make a "maybe" list
after this is posted on other forums and offered to speed3 guys, the list will certainly grow especially the maybe list
To be honest, it doesn't have to grow much as we have already made the requirement the shop owner was looking for to make a serious effort and call it worth while.
thank you guys

"Maybe List"
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock

Is this a one time deal or will we be able to jump in later? I want one but don't have the funds now.

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed


Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed


Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.

not sure on that yet
I'll know more Monday after my appointment and will update everyone

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed


Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds

I'll jump on the maybe list for now, just in case. You said you're providing them with a head flange? Could I get one too?

Also, are they keeping the runners split in half to match the head, or is headwork going to be needed?

the individual runners will not be split internally like stock
headwork will be up to the owner but will not be needed to use the manifold

I'll be contouring the seperation between the two small ports of the head to "cut the air" so to speak on my upcoming engine build but for the initial install, no head work required.

So Whoosh...

Why cant I just drop my car off at your place, give ya like 30 grand and come away with a "Whoosh Speed"? I mean if Callaway and Saleen can do it, why not you

Seriously though, I'm 99% sure I'm in. I dont leave until mid-October so I think the time line will work, even if it does slip a bit. I just didnt want to run the risk of not being around when payment time came.

What about the EGR dlete you did and does this have anything to do with the intake here?

the current EGR delete eliminates the hard line from the EGR valve itself extending and wrapping around the head to the fitting on the intake manifold (located under/back from the throttle body)
My prototype intake will not have a fitting for the EGR hard pipe mentioned above
as an aside, when I do my engine build, I'll show you guys how the EGR valve will be completely removed, and see how the exhaust groove cut in the head (under the exhaust mani flange) will be sealed up

although upon request, an EGT fitting will be available in the general area where the EGR hard line connects to the OEM manifold.

You will have to create a new hard line EGR to sheet metal intake if that's your plan/direction
It can be done and isn't a huge obstacle

Ok well since the egr is deleted its going to throw a cel for that. Im wondering will there be any other cels thrown with this new intake. Im interested just broke.

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed


Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds
7. 06Lapis - if funds available

The egr delete throws a cel every now and then, whoosh didn't you say something in another thread on how there is a cel fix is in the works for that? Not sure.

You can add me to the MAYBE LIST as well, Ill make the decision in a few weeks when we have some more info.

i havent had an egr cell yet


Ron

add me to the maybe list, i have about $1500 in hail damage i have to fix before i start modding again but if i have a few good bids go my way im sure i will be down. and thanks for steping up and getting this done for us

Will this affect my warranty?

OK, So this is my first turbo and coming from a N/A Air flow is what I like and I'm amazed at your success with this engine.

I will be on the maybe list as funds and DIY simplicity will sort themselves out in the next few days/weeks and I'll be able to make a much more informed decision.

Whoosh, please accept a sincere thank you for all the knowledge and balls you put into this forum. I also added RoadRageMotors to the list.


100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed


Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds
7. 06Lapis - if funds available
8. RoadRageMotors
9. ynitro56 funds/DIY ableness?

Y

What do we do about the VCTS system. Does unplugging it not make the ecu freak?

I'm a +1 to the maybe list.

I'm definitely interested if the gains are there.

You can bypass the VTCS system so the computer thinks it's still there, so you wont throw any codes..

add me to maybe list ....

add me to maybe list ....

Read up on this a bit and now I'm very interested, just waiting for some more details and an exact price. The lower the better of course, but what you mentioned sounds good.

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed
7)ktan91

Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds
7. 06Lapis - if funds available
8. RoadRageMotors
9. ynitro56 funds/DIY ableness?
10. Smoker6 - More details
11. Baseballd2

specifics and more info will be available after my appointment tonight
thank you for all of you support and interest in this project guys!


100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed
7)ktan91
8)palerider(Mazdaspeed 3)

Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds
7. 06Lapis - if funds available
8. RoadRageMotors
9. ynitro56 funds/DIY ableness?
10. Smoker6 - More details
11. Baseballd2

cool thanks ron

100% Definite list
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1)SSinstaller
2)mdogg
3)cherryspeed
4)sbspeed
5)VelocityRed6
6)MzSpeed
7)ktan91
8)palerider(Mazdaspeed 3)

Maybe List
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1. Zoom Zoom Bitch
2. aaragon
3. SkippyRock
4. aviator79
5. Dadasracecar - only for lack of funds.
6. ATE BALLER - funds
7. 06Lapis - if funds available
8. RoadRageMotors
9. ynitro56 funds/DIY ableness?
10. Smoker6 - More details
11. Baseballd2
12. RhoadBlock - funds/DIYability/pics/results (SOTP is fine w/ me

I know this is extreme and way far out, but hell I will throw it out there anyway.

Do you think there would be a way to outfit the sheetmetal intake with a larger throttle body from a different vehicle? I have a feeling that our throttle body is soon going to be a fairly major restriction. It could probably be as simple as a adapter harness that goes between our car and the new throttle body. I don't think that there could be a whole lot of difference between throttle bodies.

Of course now that I am thinking about it, there would probably be some major problems with scaling the flow of the larger throttle plate to roughly match the stock plate for idle and off idle purposes. You can probably throw that idea out the window unless Lou wants to rework all the numbers.

A phenolic spacer between the intake and the block might be nice also.

"*the factory throttle body will be used although hole size will be enlarged for potential size upgrades in the future"