Help With Removing Swirls Options

[H15A5H1]

Ok guys, i want my car to be 100% swirl free. i cant stand seeing little hairlines across my car under direct lighting. what is the most effective way to remove swirls? please be as detailed as you can because i will be following step by step! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/36.gif)

[BMWWW]

Ok guys, i want my car to be 100% swirl free. i cant stand seeing little hairlines across my car under direct lighting. what is the most effective way to remove swirls? please be as detailed as you can because i will be following step by step! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/36.gif)

Do yourself a favor and log yourself into Autopia.org, and read their detailing-handbook. Everything you need to know, about damn near everything you need to know, to do a decent job. That would be a terrific place to start from. Oh, don't ask this same question there: Search, and the detailing handbook will get you far enough.

In a nutshell:

The only way to remove swirls is through using abrasive polishes, which will necessitate a PC7242 (number may be off)

Best of luck!

[fxtrt]

Do yourself a favor and log yourself into Autopia.org, and read their detailing-handbook. Everything you need to know, about damn near everything you need to know, to do a decent job. That would be a terrific place to start from.

+1
http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/8...perfection.html
http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/8...int-clinic.html
http://autopia.org/forum/guide-detailing/8...hing-paint.html

[mk706]

check out this thread from meguiar's. i basically following this process last weekend. my 6 had plenty of scratches & spiderwebs. i didn't even need to got to #83, as the speed glaze did the trick.

here's my thread with more pics

and the results:
(IMG:http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i197/mk706/M6-Detail-018sm.jpg)

[Speed6 Guy]

Try my process here.

If you want me to get more in depth on anything just post up your question and I will do my best to help.

[zoomnbyu]

I use all Zaino Bros stuff. click link While I am adept at overall detailing, this stuff(although time consuming and has multiple steps) is pretty much foolproof(read: you can't burn the paint with a buffer). So it really comes down to your comfort and skill levels.

[BMWWW]

I use all Zaino Bros stuff. click link While I am adept at overall detailing, this stuff(although time consuming and has multiple steps) is pretty much foolproof(read: you can't burn the paint with a buffer). So it really comes down to your comfort and skill levels.

Just to clarify the discrepancies that I assume will occur for the OP.

Zaino, and their 'polishes' (Read: z-2, z-5, ect) Are all pure sealants other then ZPC. They aforementioned z2 and z5 are their flagship sealants, that last a long time, but do very little to hide swirls and defects. When they are used, they will hide or 'mask' minor defects--but not remove.

As a general rule, if you're going to do anything to more significant swirls other then micromarring/spiderwebbing, you will need an ABRASIVE polish, that is applied with a buffer via cutting pads.

Good luck!

[cherryspeed]

Ok guys, i want my car to be 100% swirl free. i cant stand seeing little hairlines across my car under direct lighting. what is the most effective way to remove swirls? please be as detailed as you can because i will be following step by step! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/36.gif)

Autopia is a great site, with tons of details and specifics for getting and keeping that show car shine.
However it can be overwhelming for the novice.
Do you have any experience detailing cars? Have you ever used a PC or other orbital polishers?
If you answered no to both those questions than you may want to start a little slower than buying a bunch of products and a PC (expensive).
What I would recommend to the novice is Meg's three-step process available over the counter from most auto and big box stores. It consists of a paint cleaner, polish and wax (all purchased separately). While most experienced users and pros would say these products are sub standard, I have achieved EXCELLENT results using the system.

(IMG:http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m245/cherryspeed/Overall0012.jpg)

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It uses chemicals, rather than abrasives, to clean and polish the paint. When I was done my car was completely swirl free. Try the NXT wax as the last step product, it is synthetic and has longer protection than a Carnauba wax, an excellent characteristic heading into winter. In the spring and summer I use P21s Carnauba on a semi-weekly basis. I love the deep and reflective characteristics of this product that you just don’t get from synthetics (even dare I say…Zaino)
And don’t forget to run a clay bar over the paint to remove stubborn grime and bird bombs to make the paint smooth as glass.
Also it's worth saying that I think getting the swirls out is easy, compared to trying to keep them from reappearing...lol.
Good luck!

[mk706]

It uses chemicals, rather than abrasives, to clean and polish the paint.

most chemicals are abrasive. by their very nature a "polish" uses abrasives to level out / mask impefections. i've used the meg's paint cleaner (step 1) with great results on a new finish, but less so with the car showing some age.

[BMWWW]

most chemicals are abrasive. by their very nature a "polish" uses abrasives to level out / mask impefections. i've used the meg's paint cleaner (step 1) with great results on a new finish, but less so with the car showing some age.

.. I always assumed chemical cleaners such as Kasss AIO do nothing in terms of swirls.. Does it refresh the paint via removing dead paint and oxidation, most certainly-- but does it contain abrasives to level the clearcoat--I'd hope not.

Some chemicals DO contain traces of fine-abrasives though, so research your product for the fine specifics.

[cherryspeed]

most chemicals are abrasive. by their very nature a "polish" uses abrasives to level out / mask impefections. i've used the meg's paint cleaner (step 1) with great results on a new finish, but less so with the car showing some age.

Good point, I should have said "less abrasive than machine polishes"

[H15A5H1]

hey everyone, thanks for the detailed responses.
i really appreciate you guys taking the time to answer my question. very informative links! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/1.gif)

[zoomnbyu]

Zaino, and their 'polishes' (Read: z-2, z-5, ect) Are all pure sealants other then ZPC. They aforementioned z2 and z5 are their flagship sealants, that last a long time, but do very little to hide swirls and defects. When they are used, they will hide or 'mask' minor defects--but not remove.

As a general rule, if you're going to do anything to more significant swirls other then micromarring/spiderwebbing, you will need an ABRASIVE polish, that is applied with a buffer via cutting pads.

Granted. I was not trying to mislead. My only point is that some people do not have the patience and may not be comfortable buffing. If they have not done so before I don't recommend them making their 6 the 1st car they work out on.

Oh yeah...the Zaino, if done in the appropriate steps, does hide(yes, just hiding) imperfections quite well and for quite a long while as long as you wash your car with their carwash.