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Unofficial 2017 Mazda6 Rumor Thread

So we all get excited about speculation all across the internet in regards to what we can expect for the next model year. Yes we all would love to have the new 2.5T from the CX9 in coupe variation and AWD from the upcoming CX-4/6/7/Whatever they end up calling it, but as @donkeyGrundle stated in his previous post, those rumors are all played out and nothing has been confirmed from a reliable source. I'm starting this thread so we all have somewhere to post anything we find that is reliable for what's next. Instead of having 13 different threads going with conflicting info.

Here's my .02 on what we can hopefully anticipate for next model year's update.

To start let me say that Mazda is more than likely aiming to set their model years for both the CX5 & 6 back on schedule with other manufactures. They were both in showrooms early February 2015. Hence the minor updates to the CX5 for the 2016.5 that just hit show rooms with in the passed few weeks. (Seriously, the window stickers say 2016.5.) Not updates significant enough to label it as 2017, but just enough to need some way to recognize the real differences.

What's different for the 2017 compared to the 2016 in terms of information being released is that we saw leaks of the updates start to surface in late 2014 and then to see that model hit showrooms in mid February 2015. Search google for days and you'll find nothing on 17 6's right now. This is what has got me thinking that we can expect something pretty serious for 2017. If it were minor updates for both we would probably know about it or have a 16.5 M6 out by now too.

What we could expect Mazda to do is debut the new updates for 2017 on both the CX5 & M6 (I pray we do get something with more power) at the end of this auto show season along side the public release of the CX4/6/7 which is at the beginning of April in New York. Continue to produce their current model year run on 16 M6's up until mid to late this year & then release the 2017 for showrooms in the end of Summer. Very similar to what was seen in the new Maxima last year.

That approach would put Mazda back where they should be for new model years especially on their 2nd & 3rd most popular vehicles.

But hey, no one really knows what will happen until it actually happens. So let us cross our fingers & hope for something worth talking about.

What do you guys think?

TL;DR: 2017 Mazda6 will hopefully be in showrooms by the end of summer with lots of cool new stuff.


Information confirmed 6/24/16

The 2017 Mazda 6 will be in showrooms late August to early September, setting their model years more appropriately in line the other manufactures. This information was sourced from dealer's Product Information Index

EXTERIOR CHANGES
All Models Added
- New exterior mirrors - Turn lamp design change

NTERIOR CHANGES
All Models Added
- New Steering wheel design
- New Seat back pocket design
- Improve interior sound insulation with increased front door glass thickness and
increased sound insulation material


Sport MT model Added
- MAZDA CONNECT™ Infotainment System
- Rearview camera

Touring Added
- Smart City Brake Support (SCBS)
- Auto on/off headlights
- Rain-sensing windshield wipers

Grand Touring Added
- Traffic sign recognition (New)
- Mazda Radar Cruise Control (MRCC) with Close Proximity Warning
- Lane Keep Assist System (LKAS) (New)
- High Beam Control (HBC)
- Smart Brake Support System (SBS) with Collision Warning
- Full-colored Active Driving Display (ADD)
- Meter display quality improvement
- Unified driving position memory (Seat & ADD)


Premium package available for Grand Touring - content change:
- Rear seat heater (New)
- Steering wheel heater (New)
- Nappa leather-trimmed sport seats (New)
- A/T shifter area LED accent lighting (New)
- Headliner - Black (New)
- Steering wheel with unique stitch (New)
- Bright finish power seat switches (New)
- Bright finish glove box knob (New)
- Door sash tape (Matte type finish) (New)
 Premium package available for Touring - content change:
- Naming change from Technology package to Premium package
- Change SCBS, Auto on/off headlights and Rain-sensing windshield wipers
to standard on base Touring

COLOR & TRIM

Added Exterior Colors
Machine Gray Metallic
Deleted Exterior Colors
Meteor Gray Mica

For those wondering, the MTX Touring will only be available in the base level. Still no availability for Moon/Bose or Tech with MTX

We could potentially see a Gen 4 M6 for 2018 MY with Skyactiv II HGCCI technology
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As much as I love my 6, my heart belongs to the new CX4/6/7 and I'm more transfixed on when that vehicle will be available for sale in the U.S. Haven't seen official announcement that it will debut in NYC, do you have anything firm on that. Looking for a taller easier entry-exit vehicle without going to a full fledged SUV. CX9 is absolutely gorgeous with that amazing dark red interior, but way too big for me.

Frankly, the 17' M6 needs some changes in body style after 4 plus years on the market. No indication of that yet. I see that the CX4/6/7 is supposed to have some new state of the art NVH system so that might be something that would be transferred to the 6 as well given some issues re: NVH with the 6. I'm assuming the current 6 has resolved the infotainment issues that were present on the 14'-15' so that may not be an area of change for it. I agree that it's time to start a more normal yearly cycle on it and hopefully we may see that by year's end.
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Since the 2016 model was a major update, we'd normally expect the 2017 model to be carryover or very minor changes. And the exterior still gets great reviews. But according to this report from last October:
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...kyactiv-lineup
"...the Mazda6 will get a mild exterior update in the first half of 2016 for the 2017 model year."
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As much as I love my 6, my heart belongs to the new CX4/6/7 and I'm more transfixed on when that vehicle will be available for sale in the U.S. Haven't seen official announcement that it will debut in NYC, do you have anything firm on that. Looking for a taller easier entry-exit vehicle without going to a full fledged SUV. CX9 is absolutely gorgeous with that amazing dark red interior, but way too big for me.

Frankly, the 17' M6 needs some changes in body style after 4 plus years on the market. No indication of that yet. I see that the CX4/6/7 is supposed to have some new state of the art NVH system so that might be something that would be transferred to the 6 as well given some issues re: NVH with the 6. I'm assuming the current 6 has resolved the infotainment issues that were present on the 14'-15' so that may not be an area of change for it. I agree that it's time to start a more normal yearly cycle on it and hopefully we may see that by year's end.
I haven't personally seen any thing to confirm the public release of the new model in NYC. Like I said it is purely speculation on my part. But with the amount of spy photo's being released, it seems as if it's much closer to production than we may have thought. It would just make sense IMHO due to the amount of spy photos being leaked with what looks different variations of production ready test mules.

Since every bit of Mazda's safety & entertainment technology has already been placed in the 6 for 2016, it would make sense to see an update to the power train and possibly minor updates to the sheet metal as well. All I want is just a bit more power for us and keep a 6MT matted to the front wheels.

I'll take AWD as an an option as well *sigh*
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Cars typically have a 7-8yr lifespan between major redesigns. Look at the Ford Fusion. It debuted in 2006. In 2010, it got a new front and rear clip with revised interior, but the profile and chassis were unchanged. So it went from 2006-2012 on the same frame and body, 7 years. As low profit as cars are (compared to SUVs and truck), manufacturers tend to stretch their life out as much as possible.

Obviously, this isn't concrete. Look at the last gen Malibu and Civic (both 4yrs). However, those were due to poor designs overall and sales either falling off a cliff (Civic) or being non-competitive (Malibu). With the 6 having a mid-cycle refresh in 2016 after 3yrs in the market, I think it's safe to assume that it will last until 2019, especially since most automotive journalists still speak highly of it. Mazda isn't going to change a good thing if they don't have to.
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Historically, the 3 and 6 have historically had 5-6 year lifetimes. But I agree that an all new 6 is likely further out, given that they freshened the interior and sheetmetal in MY 2016-2017.
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Since the 2016 model was a major update, we'd normally expect the 2017 model to be carryover or very minor changes. And the exterior still gets great reviews. But according to this report from last October:
http://www.autonews.com/article/2015...kyactiv-lineup
"...the Mazda6 will get a mild exterior update in the first half of 2016 for the 2017 model year."
That article makes a pretty solid point about the hot hatch market being too saturated for a new Speed3 and that an MS6 would be more competitive as Mazda's new performance Halo car.
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My Predictions

Here are "My Predictions"

1) The Mazda6 engine will be the 2.5L Turbo, since Mazda realizes that it is "supposed" to be ZoomZoom;

2) The Mazda6 optional engine will be a Turbo Diesel, since Mazda realizes that it will take the 2% of sales lost by VW for lying. An OBVIOUS revenue generator;

3) The Mazda6 will be offered with a Wagon body style, since Mazda realizes that it ALREADY makes Wagons, and they make more sense than an SUV style vehicle;

4) The Mazda6 will be offered with AWD, since Mazda realizes that it ALREADY offers this on European vehicles;

5) The Mazda6 will be offered with a la carte option ordering, since Mazda realizes that you do not need, e.g, an automatic transmission with leather and a sunroof;

6) The Mazda6 will have a lot of sound insulation, to equal the quiet of the BMW 5 Series, since Mazda realizes that trying to save 2 while passing misery on to its customers is not a good business practice.

I can think of more ... but that is probably enough for now.

Patiently waiting ...

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I don't see Mazda making the SkyActiv Turbo as a standard engine in the 6 anytime soon. MAYBE if they made the 2.0L unit as a turbo, but the NA 2.5L will likely be the standard for some time.

The SkyActiv-D, for all intents and purposes, is dead in the US. Blame CARB and, to a lesser extent, VW for that.

Wagons don't sell in the US. If people in the US want a hatch in the back, they 10 to 1 perfer an SUV to a wagon. Personally, I much prefer a sport wagon or an estate. SUVs are hardly any fun to toss around on the passes due to the high center of gravity. However, look at the failed attempts by Honda (Accord Crosstour), Toyota (Venza), Dodge (Magnum) and BMW (M6GT) to make a wagon. The US will have a lust affair for SUVs well until we go back to $4+/gal for fuel.

AWD would only come packaged with a MazdaSpeed6. I don't see that happening until 2019 at the earliest. It's too late in the current gen's cycle to make a MS6 at this point.

I don't see A'la Carte happening. With most of Mazda's cars still built in Japan, the wait times alone would kill interest.
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That article makes a pretty solid point about the hot hatch market being too saturated for a new Speed3 and that an MS6 would be more competitive as Mazda's new performance Halo car.
I don't think the hot hatch market will last too long. I give it about 2yrs until the wanderlust is gone and then it will fade. But between the Focus RS, the upcoming Civic SI-R and the current gen GTI, there's no point in getting into that market now.

I read that the Chevy Cruze will be making a hatch. No new engine options, just a hatch. How sad.
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