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Old 02-07-2009, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do the new 2.5l engines have canister oil filters or spin-on?
I'm curious if Mazda went back to spin-on, since there were so many issues with the 2.3 canisters being cracked by crap mechanics, etc.
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Old 03-17-2009, 04:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Do the new 2.5l engines have canister oil filters or spin-on?
I'm curious if Mazda went back to spin-on, since there were so many issues with the 2.3 canisters being cracked by crap mechanics, etc.[/b]


I'm getting the oil changed Fri.I'll let you know...............
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Old 03-17-2009, 09:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Do the new 2.5l engines have canister oil filters or spin-on?
I'm curious if Mazda went back to spin-on, since there were so many issues with the 2.3 canisters being cracked by crap mechanics, etc.[/b]
It's a canister, but easier to get to than the wife's M5.
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I've no experience with Mazda's canister filter on my 2.5L 4 cyl. , and haven't yet crawled under to examine it. Before I change the filter, does anyone have thoughts about what to look for / be careful of etc.??

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eh. the 3.7 V6 has a easy to get to spin off. I changed the oil w/o jacking the car or lifting it in anyway
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I've no experience with Mazda's canister filter on my 2.5L 4 cyl. , and haven't yet crawled under to examine it. Before I change the filter, does anyone have thoughts about what to look for / be careful of etc.??

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The drain plug takes a 13mm wrench/socket. The filter is the spin off and not a can. The wrench can be found here - http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-oil-filter-wrench.html. I used the strap type wrench, which was awkward, but did work. There is a 'plug' at the base of the spin off that can be opened with an allen/hex wrench. When you get the black spin off 'cap' completely off, be prepared for a splash of oil to come with it. According to the manual, the 2.5 takes 5.3 quarts of oil when the filter is also changed. I put in 5 quarts and that is right at the top of the upper line on the dipstick and that was after running the engine to circulate the oil.
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What is the difference between a cartridge filter and a spin off?

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Spin on filter is what you're probably used to seeing: It (the entire filtering apparatus) literally spins on and off and is 1 complete piece....remove and replace the entire unit. Cartridge is a little different: you remove the outer casing (which is reused indefinitely) and instead replace the inner filter cartridge with each oil change.

Problem with doing the cartridge yourself is you need a special tool to do it...where a spin on usually just needs a strap wrench or something similar
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I'm confused - I admit that's not always hard to do... But, when I look in several places / catalogs all I find is a reference to a replacement cartridge, Not the entire spin-off assembly like everything else I've owned since the late 50s.

I just went out and put it on the ramps, then rolled underneath w/ the creeper. If I'm looking in the right place, that Ain't no "spin off"! When looking up through the large hole in the splash shield, I see a black composit "cap" that has a white metal plug in the center. This is on a metal housing. Both the plug and "cap" have torque specs. on them.

So... Am I looking in the right place?

If I am looking in the right place, anyone out there w/ experience w/ this type filter on this engine?

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I'm confused - I admit that's not always hard to do... But, when I look in several places / catalogs all I find is a reference to a replacement cartridge, Not the entire spin-off assembly like everything else I've owned since the late 50s.

I just went out and put it on the ramps, then rolled underneath w/ the creeper. If I'm looking in the right place, that Ain't no "spin off"! When looking up through the large hole in the splash shield, I see a black composit "cap" that has a white metal plug in the center. This is on a metal housing. Both the plug and "cap" have torque specs. on them.

So... Am I looking in the right place?

If I am looking in the right place, anyone out there w/ experience w/ this type filter on this engine?

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Yes, that is the housing for the cartridge type filter. The 'white metal plug in the center' is a drain plug. That allows you to drain some of the oil out of the filter area so you don't have so much spill out when you remove the 'black composite cap'. The black composite cap can be removed with this part - http://www.mazdaparts.org/mazda-oil-filter-wrench.html. The filter is a paper type cartridge cylinder. There is a 'post' inside the black composite cap that the cartridge filter fits over. I got the filter at NAPA - NAPA Gold 7203. It is the same filter that is used in the 2.3L engine in the Mazda3. This is also my first experience with the cartridge filter and once you get the black cap off, you'll see that it is pretty simple stuff. I'll try to take some pics next time I do an oil change.
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