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charles · 10-15-2009, 06:05 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmALfffgEas

13.1 SHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXCfobhZl-0

GoBackToSleep · 10-15-2009, 06:17 PM

That's very impressive. I looked them up on the Ford web site when they were first released and I was highly disappointed that they only came with an automatic transmission. Older Taurus SHO cars from 15-20 years ago had a five-speed option. Why not a five or six-speed now? One could only hope...

jd42 · 10-15-2009, 07:22 PM

QUOTE (GoBackToSleep @ Oct 15 2009, 06:17 PM)

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That's very impressive. I looked them up on the Ford web site when they were first released and I was highly disappointed that they only came with an automatic transmission. Older Taurus SHO cars from 15-20 years ago had a five-speed option. Why not a five or six-speed now?[/b]

Americans don't want manuals-- they get in the way of cell phones, applying makeup, reading books, eating cereal, and all the other "activities" that take place while driving.

The sad part is that the auto transmission is a deal breaker for many enthusiasts (including me), which means many people who would otherwise be interested in the car will go elsewhere. Then, the marketing people will erroneously conclude that there is no market for fast cars, and go back to catering to the car-as-an-appliance market that is happy driving boring, terrible cars.

triplejumper18 · 10-15-2009, 09:03 PM

QUOTE (jd42 @ Oct 15 2009, 04:22 PM)

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Americans don't want manuals-- they get in the way of cell phones, applying makeup, reading books, eating cereal, and all the other "activities" that take place while driving.

The sad part is that the auto transmission is a deal breaker for many enthusiasts (including me), which means many people who would otherwise be interested in the car will go elsewhere. Then, the marketing people will erroneously conclude that there is no market for fast cars, and go back to catering to the car-as-an-appliance market that is happy driving boring, terrible cars.[/b]

That car weighs as much as a SUV. Fuck that.

Mcfly013 · 10-15-2009, 09:17 PM

QUOTE (jd42 @ Oct 15 2009, 07:22 PM)

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1)Americans don't want manuals.

2)The auto transmission is a deal breaker for many enthusiasts[/b]

SPOT ON
Welcome to the beginning of the end of the Automotive Enthusiast.
The car is slowly being converted into a mindless people mover with
more accent on entertaining the passengers with gadgets, rather
than with driving the car itself.

Whoa is me.....

Qwik6 · 10-16-2009, 02:59 AM

Not worth the price tag IMO

BlackCherry06 · 10-16-2009, 08:47 AM

I've always heard that not offering M/T in certain high performance cars (especially AWD) reduces the number of warranty claims to have abused drivetrains repaired. They don't want to spend the $ to put durable AWD drivetrain components in them like Audi or Porsche, so they take away your ability to do high-rpm clutch drops. Ford probably took the reliability lessons from the 270hp MS6 and decided against a M/T for the 365hp Taurus.

GeneralPatton6 · 10-20-2009, 06:11 PM

the sho series hasnt had a manual in quite some time
and the autos sold better than the manuals
so they cut their losses with the manuals

jmhinkle · 10-20-2009, 06:49 PM

12.7 is a fast family hauler no matter how you slice it. Price is the killer in my book. Much like the Hyundai Genesis. Doesn't matter how nice it is, I'm not buying a Taurus or Hyundai for that kind of $$$.

smokeU6s · 10-21-2009, 05:43 PM

QUOTE (jmhinkle @ Oct 20 2009, 06:49 PM)

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12.7 is a fast family hauler no matter how you slice it. Price is the killer in my book. Much like the Hyundai Genesis. Doesn't matter how nice it is, I'm not buying a Taurus or Hyundai for that kind of $$$.[/b]

Car&Driver said the Taurus SHO was faster than the Audi RS6... and its 1/2 the price. Well worth it IMO

10-15-2009, 06:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
charles Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Charles, maryland Posts: 1,688 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmALfffgEas 13.1 SHO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXCfobhZl-0 __________________ CPE catless DP// CPE catback//CPE standback// SRI// ETS top mount// megan springs// turbine tech diff mount//carrilo rods//cp pistons bored .20 over//cometic head gasket/ arp head studs// carrilo crank bolts// balance shaft delete// ported turbine housing// 4" surge compressor housing//port polished bowl port 3 angle valve job// porting intake // 3' inlet and intake// custom FMIC// koni yellow adj ft and rr// SU MM//tial external wastegate 38mm// PG manifold//spec 2+ clutch and stock flywheel// previous info current weight 3410lbs// 260hp 284tq// best qtr. 13.2@103// RECORD BEST 60ft 1.71 Co-Owner and head mechanic

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GoBackToSleep Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 344 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	That's very impressive. I looked them up on the Ford web site when they were first released and I was highly disappointed that they only came with an automatic transmission. Older Taurus SHO cars from 15-20 years ago had a five-speed option. Why not a five or six-speed now? One could only hope... __________________ - Matt 2006 Mazda 6i Sport MTX - Mazdaspeed CAI - Mazdaspeed aluminum pedals and footrest - black leather armrest w/red stitching www.myspace.com/adaliepa

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Qwik6 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hopewell, Virginia Posts: 1,244 Thanks: 157 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts Groans: 1 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: 0 reviews	Not worth the price tag IMO __________________ 315awhp/342tq . . . Guestiment http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2584678

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BlackCherry06 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	I've always heard that not offering M/T in certain high performance cars (especially AWD) reduces the number of warranty claims to have abused drivetrains repaired. They don't want to spend the $ to put durable AWD drivetrain components in them like Audi or Porsche, so they take away your ability to do high-rpm clutch drops. Ford probably took the reliability lessons from the 270hp MS6 and decided against a M/T for the 365hp Taurus. __________________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___

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GeneralPatton6 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lee's Summit, Missouri Posts: 1,076 Thanks: 9 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Groans: 9 Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	the sho series hasnt had a manual in quite some time and the autos sold better than the manuals so they cut their losses with the manuals __________________ 2007 Mazda 6i MTX Glacier Silver Metallic Member/President: Mazda Club Of Kansas City

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10-20-2009, 06:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
jmhinkle Risickulous Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rio Rancho, NM Posts: 4,807 Thanks: 171 Thanked 160 Times in 101 Posts Groans: 18 Groaned at 1 Time in 1 Post iTrader: 0 reviews	12.7 is a fast family hauler no matter how you slice it. Price is the killer in my book. Much like the Hyundai Genesis. Doesn't matter how nice it is, I'm not buying a Taurus or Hyundai for that kind of $$$. __________________ Yup, my car is stock.