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wh1te0nr1ce · 02-02-2009, 04:39 PM

this is with cpe cai and sls 3"tp

i was expecting more....

smoker6 · 02-02-2009, 04:47 PM

Don't beat yourself up. Dyno's are only useful for tuning and comparing power changes from mod to mod after getting a baseline. Don't look at "217" and compare it to a completely different dyno that hit 250 stock. If you want to get technical about it, a stock MS6 is supposed to put down 274hp at the crank, which after AWD drivetrain loss is ~213awhp, and then you're in the right ball park.

mmarfan · 02-02-2009, 05:27 PM

Yea but that was with mods... Did they put your gearing in right because you did a 5th gear pull?

yoichi · 02-02-2009, 06:06 PM

Dyno Dynamics known to be a Heart Breaker Dyno. Do not be dissapointed as ALL dynos read differently and it should only be used as a tuning tool. Use this Dyno as a base now on modifying your car. The Real way to measure power is your trap speed on the track.
After countless hours on the dyno with my previous cars, 217 on a DD sounds about right for AWD and 274 Crank HP. It should read high 230's on a dynojet.

Speculating what all dynos read is pointless though.

Good luck.

dan3381 · 02-02-2009, 08:12 PM

how can you measure HP by trap speed?

mmarfan · 02-03-2009, 09:18 PM

The higher you trap, the more power you have:

A car that runs a 14.0 @ 102MPH has a lot more power then something that does a 14.0 @ 97MPH

Basic rule of thumb, for every 1 mph you have to gain 10HP. So if you go to the track and run 2MPH quicker then before, you have gained about 20HP.

amp · 02-03-2009, 11:17 PM

QUOTE (mmarfan @ Feb 3 2009, 09:18 PM)

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....Basic rule of thumb, for every 1 mph you have to gain 10HP. So if you go to the track and run 2MPH quicker then before, you have gained about 20HP.[/b]

not a good rule of thumb to follow imho.. as there are a great deal number of factors that comes to play with that new found trap speed.....

02-02-2009, 04:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
wh1te0nr1ce Track Racer Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 132 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	this is with cpe cai and sls 3"tp i was expecting more.... __________________ 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Sport Titanium Gray Metallic Greddy TT - Prosport Boost Gauge - CP-E CAI - SLS 3" TP - Turbosmart BOV - 225/45/18 Falken Ziex 912 - ETS 3.5" TMIC Magnaflow Catback Exhaust - Megan Racing H-Brace - Optima Red Top Battery - SPC Ball Joints TWM Performance Stage 2 Short Shifter w/ Bushings - Whiteline Adjustable RSB - H&R Sport Springs Graphite Painted RX-8 Wheels - Cobb AP Stage 2

02-02-2009, 04:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
smoker6 Mazda Guru Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 3,517 Thanks: 3 Thanked 22 Times in 14 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post iTrader: 0 reviews	Don't beat yourself up. Dyno's are only useful for tuning and comparing power changes from mod to mod after getting a baseline. Don't look at "217" and compare it to a completely different dyno that hit 250 stock. If you want to get technical about it, a stock MS6 is supposed to put down 274hp at the crank, which after AWD drivetrain loss is ~213awhp, and then you're in the right ball park. __________________ '06 Black Cherry Mica Speed6 Since 2-26-07 \| 0-60: 3.87s \| CPE CAI, SU MM, SU Boost and Recirc Tubes, Synapse BPV, Magnaflow 2.5" CBE, MDS DashHawk, TWM SS Stage 1 w/Bushings, TT Front MM, TT Rear Diff Mount, SU StiffDiff, Whiteline RSB, CX-7 Antenna, BC Coilovers, mrlilguy CDFP, CPE Catted DP, HKS Twin Power Ignition System, RAYS Gram Lights 57 Maximum Time Attack, CPE TIP, Denso 2Step Colder Spark Plugs, COBB Shifter Weight, SPC Ball Joints, VTCS, BS, & EGR Delete, VentPod w/VEI Boost Guage, Saikou Michi CC, Labonte ISG-S3, GT2871r, DNP manifold, Tial 44mm EWG, Cobb AP, TT Liquid to Air Intercooler. Spare GT2871r for sale.

02-02-2009, 05:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
mmarfan Mazda Guru Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middletown, Oh Posts: 2,111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea but that was with mods... Did they put your gearing in right because you did a 5th gear pull? __________________ The new: 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Sport Velocity Red 1/4 - 13.739 @ 98.10 (Stock) w/ 1.787 60' Mods: 18" Tenzo Type M w/ 225/40/18 Kumho Ecsta SPT, Tein S springs, Mazdaspeed CAI, CP-E Standback, ETS TMIC, CP-E "Catless" DP w/ 53009 Magnaflow cat welded in, Corksport Exhaust, STRI DSD-SLM II 60mm Boost Gauge, Dashhawk, Synapse BOV; 0 - 60 4.64 (dashhawk) The old: 2003 6S MTX Speed Yellow /18" RSL ADR Mase/ 18" Nakayama Higari/ HIDs (6000K)/ Painted 'stash/ INJEN-CPE /BR Lip /Sprint Springs 1/4 14.503 @ 96.56 Post your time slips! Drag racing tips!

02-02-2009, 06:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
yoichi Track Racer Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Forest Hills, NY Posts: 697 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	Dyno Dynamics known to be a Heart Breaker Dyno. Do not be dissapointed as ALL dynos read differently and it should only be used as a tuning tool. Use this Dyno as a base now on modifying your car. The Real way to measure power is your trap speed on the track. After countless hours on the dyno with my previous cars, 217 on a DD sounds about right for AWD and 274 Crank HP. It should read high 230's on a dynojet. Speculating what all dynos read is pointless though. Good luck. __________________ Built Motor 344/356

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dan3381 Track Racer Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 363 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	how can you measure HP by trap speed? __________________ 06 mazdaspeed 6 GT velocity red mica Going to a new home. Replaced by a 07 Dodge Ram HEMI/Laramie

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02-03-2009, 09:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
mmarfan Mazda Guru Join Date: May 2003 Location: Middletown, Oh Posts: 2,111 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Groans: 0 Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts iTrader: 0 reviews	The higher you trap, the more power you have: A car that runs a 14.0 @ 102MPH has a lot more power then something that does a 14.0 @ 97MPH Basic rule of thumb, for every 1 mph you have to gain 10HP. So if you go to the track and run 2MPH quicker then before, you have gained about 20HP. __________________ The new: 2006 Mazdaspeed6 Sport Velocity Red 1/4 - 13.739 @ 98.10 (Stock) w/ 1.787 60' Mods: 18" Tenzo Type M w/ 225/40/18 Kumho Ecsta SPT, Tein S springs, Mazdaspeed CAI, CP-E Standback, ETS TMIC, CP-E "Catless" DP w/ 53009 Magnaflow cat welded in, Corksport Exhaust, STRI DSD-SLM II 60mm Boost Gauge, Dashhawk, Synapse BOV; 0 - 60 4.64 (dashhawk) The old: 2003 6S MTX Speed Yellow /18" RSL ADR Mase/ 18" Nakayama Higari/ HIDs (6000K)/ Painted 'stash/ INJEN-CPE /BR Lip /Sprint Springs 1/4 14.503 @ 96.56 Post your time slips! Drag racing tips!